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MrsTazlvr
06-30-2005, 09:41 PM
This was posted on WC today by Merrick and I thought it was worth sharing as it is very disturbing.

I've also posted in parenting journals
I'm active at some other mothering boards, we've recently found pics of members children at fetish sites, (adult diaper sites).
If you have pictures of your child online, it's advisable that you remove them from public viewing, many of the pics were stolen from blogs etc, and we've only put names to quite few of the children

If you want to know the site please pm me, I won't be back online til 3pm,
the owner expects you to sign up to check every single picture to look for your child, you should know this, yeah it's rather vexing to have to do this but unless we can get a couple hundred or more angry mothers to get active this is the only way

That was at 1am

Updated this evening
For those who are intrested in getting active.
You can contact Michigan's Attorney General Mike Cox.

Mike Cox, Michigan Attorney General
Michigan Department of Attorney General

Email: miag@michigan.gov
Main Number (517) 373-1110
Toll Free (877) 765-8388
Facsimile (517) 373-3042

Simply say or type this: Shut down Brian Cobb's website ******************* that shows sexually exploited children (AND stolen images of your (or your friend's) children.) if this applies to you.


The national media has been alerted and Mr Cox's office has had several hundred emails and calls so far today day one of our trying to have this site closed.
Please don't wait until this is on CNN or Goodmorning America, act NOW!!
I just wanted to say it's not only mothering it's just that we were the ones who found the site and started to alert others, mother's who've never posted or linked a pic there had their pictures stolen also, they've stolen pics from sites selling diapers, web host and by plain old google.
So far because it's cloth daipering moms who found the site, we've only been able to get confirmation of cloth diapered kids, but there are more sposi-ed babes that cloth diapered!
Unfortunately he's not accepting any new accounts, because of the amount of emails complaints etc, and hopefully he'll do the right thing.
But as a concerned mother or father sending an email to the AG's office let's it be known that you won't accept nothing being done and this continuing.

Thank you all


And WinterBiscuit said:
I just logged on to warn people about this. I happen to live in Michigan, and Brian Cobb, the guy whose website this is, lives in my state. I am absolutely disgusted. Please spread the word. Pictures of innocent children are being stolen from blogs and sites like mothering.com to entertain some very sick people. This is completely wrong.

Apparently, there are detailed instructions in one of Brian Cobb's blogs that tell people how to do a search to find pictures of babies in diapers. I guess it tells people how to find parenting sites and journals or blogs where there are likely pictures of babies and toddlers in diapers. This is only what I heard; I have not seen anything myself.

I tried to register at the site, but like the OP already mentioned, you have to register (and get the mods to approve your registration) just to check to see if there are any pictures of your child(ren) posted.

However, I was able to view the messages in the forums and these people are SICK. It appears that this site is for people who enjoy wearing diapers, the way a cross-dresser would get a kick out of dressing up in clothing designed for the opposite sex. They seem to throughly enjoy wearing diapers.

There is one thread titled, "What do you look for in a good diaper picture?" One respondent said he/she like soaked diapers better. Another one said (verbatim): " I like pictures of younger kids in diapers. but what really makes it for me is i like pictures of the full body of the diapered- face, body, AND diaper region. if it's jsut a picture of a diaper around someone's hips, and there's no sign of anything above or below the diaper, it doesn't really interest me."

Here is one more quote from the site, just to give you an idea of how sickening this is:

"i like to see kids of about 3-8 years in wet and soiled nappies, becouse kids just dont wet they also poo. its great to see a big bulging nappy with poo try to leak out that when you now they relly have to wear that nappy. any one else agree."

This is sad. I have never posted a picture of my DD on the WC or any other site because I've always been leery of privacy issues, but I know that many moms have, never dreaming that this would happen to them. I sincerely hope that none of you find your child's picture on this disgusting site - that would be a nightmare come true.


I don't even know what to say about this. :mad: :(

claribella
06-30-2005, 10:12 PM
I just saw this and my jaw dropped to the floor!

I'm really worried about the pictures I post in my LJ Photo Album. But they are ALL locked in my LJ PHoto Album. You think this is enough?

mimieliza
06-30-2005, 10:14 PM
I read about this on another board, and it is frightening and sickening. I just thought I'd mention that kids in diapers were not the only pics on that site. They also had pics of fully-clothed kids. The pics were stolen from webshots, WAHM sites, people's blogs, etc. PLEASE be careful posting pics of your kids! If you do choose to post them, you might want to remove them after a few days.

For me, I do feel safe posting pics in my locked LJ journal.

I had a few pics of my baby cousin in my smugmug gallery which I promptly removed. I had never shared them, but it is a public gallery, and I would never want to be responsible for his little face showing up in some sicko's website.

So, so sad and scary. :(

MrsTazlvr
06-30-2005, 10:16 PM
I just saw this was my jaw dropped to the floor!

I'm really worried about the pictures I post in my LJ Photo Album. But they are ALL locked in my LJ PHoto Album. You think this is enough?

I don't know enough about LJ to know that answer to that. Hopefully one of the LJ ladies can answer that. I have a LJ but I am not that savvy on it.

Marisa
06-30-2005, 10:19 PM
Yes, LJ pictures are safe, as long as your entries are Private or Friends Only. People are not able to "Google" them that way.


The top three threads on the WC right now is this message, then two picture-posting threads. :rolleyes: :confused:

MrsTazlvr
06-30-2005, 10:21 PM
The top three threads on the WC right now is this message, then two picture-posting threads. :rolleyes: :confused:

I noticed that, too. Weird.

claribella
06-30-2005, 10:21 PM
Yes, LJ pictures are safe, as long as your entries are Private or Friends Only. People are not able to "Google" them that way.


The top three threads on the WC right now is this message, then two picture-posting threads. :rolleyes: :confused:
Whew, ok that is what I thought but you just never know. Anyway, I just googled my son's name and NOTHING came up...a big "whew" there....Its just all so scary sometimes!*runs off to make sure ALL pictures are locked on LJ*

kmmommy
06-30-2005, 10:43 PM
Anyone know how to save your journal to your PC and then delete from WC?

BooeyJ2
07-01-2005, 12:12 AM
My heart just sank and I am completely disgusted. I still can't believe there are SICK people like that in this world.

I just deleted the photos I had posted of my daughter (minus my avatar since it's so tiny...but who knows, just might delete that too).

Thank you for sharing that. From now on i'll only be posting pics in my locked LJ.

:(

Jen1098
07-01-2005, 07:05 AM
Kaeden's Mommy I'm not to sure how to save your journal but to delete you have to PM the admin for them to do it. I pm them yesterday and asked them to delete my journal asap. I didn't get an email back but they did go ahead and delete it.

People are just sick sick sick!

katzmeow671
07-01-2005, 07:08 AM
I'm sad that the world has come to this. :(

Marisa
07-01-2005, 08:04 AM
Anyone know how to save your journal to your PC and then delete from WC?

I just typed up the instructions for saving last night:

http://boards.weddingchannel.com/thread.jspa?threadID=494835&tstart=0

I know they work from a PC but it looks like people are having trouble using these instructions from a Mac... I'll have to look into it. (I'm not the Tech Support CL anymore, but I want to help those who are trying to make their pictures private of course!!)

Unfortunately, we're not able to delete threads anymore over there, but you CAN edit your posts. Starting with the first post in the thread, click the little gray/green button on the top right, under where it says "reply" (if you're the author of the post, you should see it). Change the text of the post to "deleted" or "blah" or whatever.


And double-unfortunately, if you're having trouble logging into your old username, this won't work for you. You will have to PM the Admin over there and they will delete your journal for you -- they've posted in the warning thread over there that this is an urgent matter and they will make every effort to take care of it asap.



Link to the control panel for Admin, where you can private message him:

http://boards.weddingchannel.com/profile.jspa?userID=1

Wilsmom
07-01-2005, 08:12 AM
Thanks for posting that link to admin Marisa, but I can't find where to PM them. (I'm pretty much a computer idiot.) Can you tell me?

Also, since the boards changed, I can't log in under my user name, so I can't get in to delete pictures! I just contacted WC in general to ask them to either delete my account or allow me to log in to delete pictures. I hope to hear back from them soon. In the meantime, I want to PM admin too about this. It is really upsetting me! :(

LeslieR
07-01-2005, 08:21 AM
Thanks for starting this thread. This only confirms my fears about posting pictures of my baby in the future. I can't believe there are people really that sick in this world. Unreal.

Franni
07-01-2005, 08:22 AM
kaeden's mommy You can just highlight the text and pics portion and paste to Word (or something like it). I don't think there's a way to save it.

katzmeow671
07-01-2005, 08:27 AM
Marisa THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for the instructions! I'll be saving mine tonight. I went through last night and deleted all the pics I could find but at this point I want to wipe the slate clean. However, I don't want to lose all the "history", you know?

michael'sbride
07-01-2005, 08:38 AM
Has anyone figured out a way to determine if your child's picture has been used? I'm at a loss and brokenhearted here.

SiValleySteph
07-01-2005, 09:34 AM
If you have pictures on a personal website (for family/friends), you may want to make sure your pictures have generic names, like pic0123.jpg, instead of diaperpic1.jpg, babybathtub.jpg or something like that. That will help keep your pictures from coming up in a google image search. There are also some commands you can put in your web page src code to prevent google from searching through your files. If you do have a personal webpage, you may want to make your domain registration private. Otherwise, it may be possible for someone to get your home address from your domain name registration.

I will still be posting pictures of my son because I get pleasure out of it. I don't feel the actual risk to my family weighed against the enjoyment of sharing with other is enough to keep me from doing so. I do not post our last name or address or our personal web site address on public forums. Everyone has to, of course, make their own personal decision on what is best for their family.

Wilsmom
07-01-2005, 09:49 AM
Well, I finally decided just to re-register over there so I could PM admin. I can't find all the places I posted pics of Wil, so I just asked him to delete my account. I can't stand knowing that someone could steal pics of my son for such horrid purposes.

IrisHope
07-01-2005, 09:56 AM
Is the website ******************* ? It says there are no pictures. Do you think he removed them?

PookiePrincess
07-01-2005, 10:43 AM
I can't believe there are people in this world that are that sick...it's just gross.

mimieliza
07-01-2005, 10:51 AM
I don't feel the actual risk to my family weighed against the enjoyment of sharing with other is enough to keep me from doing so. I do not post our last name or address or our personal web site address on public forums. Everyone has to, of course, make their own personal decision on what is best for their family.

ITA with this. I don't have kids yet, so I don't know what I'll do about pics then. I certainly wanted to protect my cousin's pics, since he's not my child - I would feel so, so awful if something happened to his pics.

I really like the idea of removing pics after a few days. These sick people find stuff through web searching, and if your pic is only available for a few days it lessens the chance they will find it.

Also, I may be wrong, but don't you have to be registered and logged in to CC in order to see any posts at all? It is simple to get a username, so that won't stop everyone, but wouldn't it mean that our posts here shouldn't show up in google searches?

It just sucks that there are people like this out there, who can make us feel so unsafe. :(

December27JJB
07-01-2005, 11:30 AM
Oh God. People are sick. I deleted a photo of DD I had posted on here. It makes me so mad because I love sharing photos of my DD to you all and love seeing pictures of your children because I can put a 'face' on the stories I read on here. This really is depressing. I dont even know how to post a photo on LJ :confused:

emschwar
07-01-2005, 11:35 AM
Thanks for the warning! DH is doing what he can now to make sure our family gallery can't be crawled by google. All the picture names are the names the camera gives him, so that's something at least.

Some people in this world are just sick though. I hope this guy gets in some serious trouble!

ez2luv
07-05-2005, 11:02 PM
FREAKING OUT!!!!

What is the address to this site?? How do I check??? :eek:

cpbride8203
07-06-2005, 07:30 AM
How disturbing...

I just googled DD's name and nothing came up.

I think that the lesson is to just be cautious when posting pics. I hope this man faces some sort of consequence for this.

Marisa
07-06-2005, 08:08 AM
Google "****" to find the site in question. I don't know if you'll see anything though, you need a username/password to see the galleries, and apparently they stopped giving them out a couple of days ago. (This info is based on what I've read on Mothering's boards.)

hub1176
07-06-2005, 11:41 AM
I deleted the pics of DD in my journal but am wondering about shutterfly/ophoto site - I upload my pics to share with family since I can't directly e-mail them, can they get the pics from there or do you have to share them with the person in order for them to be viewed?

ez2luv
08-06-2005, 10:05 PM
Speechless.........!

LeslieR
08-07-2005, 06:57 AM
:eek: Where's the 'Report this post' button when you need it???

mommycal
08-07-2005, 07:18 AM
Ok, I just was able to subscribe to the site...now what? how can I find out if DD pics are there. This is awful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JenniferEC
08-07-2005, 07:28 AM
This pervert is exactly why I don't post DS's pics online!

emschwar
08-07-2005, 08:21 AM
:eek: Where's the 'Report this post' button when you need it???
For future reference, the "report this post" button is the red triangle with the ! inside it in the upper right corner of each post.

LeslieR
08-07-2005, 08:46 AM
Thanks Emily!

ez2luv
08-07-2005, 09:10 AM
So I'm not the only one who was 'disturbed'??? That was interesting!

Marisa
08-07-2005, 01:00 PM
I hope everyone realizes that this means that pictures posted here on these boards are not safe either. Thanks to necros we know that they know about this parenting forum as well.

It doesn't matter that the one website in question purports to have pure intentions.

What skeeves me is the idea of all the subscribers to that site who have saved hard drives full of photos, collected from various places, to swap or to keep all to themselves.

mama2a&g
08-07-2005, 01:11 PM
Marisa posted exactly what I was going to. CC is not a "safe haven" to post photos. If you google the fetish site name, CC comes up since the exact site name has been posted here, as do MANY other parenting forums where this has been talked about. Unfortunately, all the buzz about that site means that all those sick perverts need to do is google their own site name to find sources for tons of new babies to victimize.

The bottom line is that if it would bother you at all to find your children's photos being used by someone else in any way, don't post them in public, ever, for any amount of time.

Katy
08-07-2005, 02:59 PM
Marisa posted exactly what I was going to. CC is not a "safe haven" to post photos. If you google the fetish site name, CC comes up since the exact site name has been posted here, as do MANY other parenting forums where this has been talked about. Unfortunately, all the buzz about that site means that all those sick perverts need to do is google their own site name to find sources for tons of new babies to victimize.

Ladies, I just want to take a moment and remind you, no site is ever a "safe" site unless it is password protected. CC is not a "closed" community. It is open, anyone can SEE posted messages (with the exceptions of journals) but one must be registered in order to post.

I'm sorry you've all be shaken up about this recent situation. As mama2a&g pointed out, now that we've "named" the site, our message boards now will show up with a google search. We've taken the liberty to block out the offending site name and address, so hopefully, that will help to lower our ranking in that particular google search. If you need to know the name of the site, to check for yourself regarding your child's images, please PM a mod to get the site name).

Just remember, the more traffic you send to that site (even out of curiousity) the more "popular" you make it. Also keep in mind that without knowing that site's policy on emails and whatnot, you may end up on some sort a mailing list. Just something to keep in mind.


ETA: the imporant thing to keep in mind, regarding this particular site is that they have gone through their photos and have adjusted their policies - they are "going over their images and deleting any and all that have no copyright from the member that posted them"

gayle
08-07-2005, 03:00 PM
I am locking this. It is not serving any positive purpose for our site at this point, and the reports are coming in like gang busters.

Be forwarned, take care in what info you post about your private life. Including pictures.