TTC w/Charting - How many firecrackers will July bring?

[Baby Lust]

TTCers of ConstantChatter:
Charting Our Course to the BFPs


http://www.ripleysorlando.com/images2/fertilitystatues.jpg
The fertility statues are known to work for some who rub them around the time of possible conception.
It is said that the baby is the most potent part of the statue.

So rub away! :D It's worth a shot!


Who we are:
This is a group of women using charting (temperatures, CM, CP, OPK/FM results, or a combination of these) to try to conceive and, along the way, are learning a heckuvalot about their own bodies! Many of us use a software program to keep track of our charts as well as allowing us to share them with each other. The most common ones are FertitlityFriend.com and Ovusoft.com.

Your threadmistress for this thread is Baby Lust!
If you have any questions, comments or suggestions, feel free to email me! (charting_is_knowledge@yahoo.com)


To our members:
This thread gets very busy at times, so in order to keep things less overwhelming and a bit more organized, we start a new thread each month as well as after 3 BFPs. A link to the new thread is always posted at the end of the current thread to help everyone find their way over. The threadmistress would really appreciate it if everyone would post their updates in Red. That way, if I get a bit behind, it is much quicker to get the thread up-to-date.


KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

Want to join the fun??
We welcome one and all. It doesn’t matter if you have never charted before or if you’ve been charting to avoid. I am sure you will find lots of help and support in this group.

If you would like to join, CD1 is the time to do it! That way, we can cheer you on
throughout your cycle, rather than 2 days before you test! :cool:

Please don't be discouraged by the number of posts in this thread. You don’t have to read the whole thread to join. Feel free to just jump in on the last page. Just read through these first couple of posts and post a reply with the following information and we will get you added right away. Of course, none of this info is a must but we like to know a little bit about one another.


WC Name: If Applicable
Me: name/age
DH: name/age
Married since: date
Off BCP since: date
TTC since: date
Charting since: date
Known issues/test results:
Chart: link
Current status: waiting to O, What the bleep .., testing ...



Previous Thread... (http://constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=97&page=1)




Resources borrowed from Still At It:

Abbreviations and acronyms
List of TTC & IF acronyms written out (http://womens-place.com/ttc/ttcacronyms.php)

HPT Sensitivity Comparison Charts
Fertility Plus (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hpt.html)
Pee On A Stick (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html)
Mama's Ark (http://www.mamasark.com/hpt.htm)
Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com/pregnancy-test-sensitivity.html)
Remember, the hCG starts at 1 at implantation and increases as time goes on, so the smaller amount of hCG it measures, the more sensitive the test is!

Books
Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler, MPH (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060937645/qid=1041654042/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

The Fertility Sourcebook by M. Sara Rosenthal, PHD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0737303808/qid=1042220393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)

Inconceivable by Ben Elton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385334656/qid=1041659461/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)
The movie "Maybe Baby" (below) is based on this book

Inconceivable: A Woman's Triumph Over Despair and Statistics
by Julia Indichova (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767908201/qid=1059292613/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

The Infertility Diet: Get Pregnant & Prevent Miscarriage by Fern Reiss (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893290395/qid=1059292976/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

Conquering Infertility: Dr. Domar's Mind/Body Guide to Enhancing
Fertility & Coping with Infertility by Alice Domar, Phd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670031550/qid=1059293116/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-2812959-1358247)


Girlfriend to Girlfriend: A Fertility Companion by Kristen Magnacca (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1588202135/qid=1082306449/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-9895052-8814318?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Movies
Maybe Baby (2001) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000062XKW/qid=1041654127/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=video&n=507846)

She's Having A Baby (1988) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6300988996/qid%3D1041654195/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-0287896-1655948)

Websites (by subject)

Charting
Ovusoft aka TCOYF (http://www.ovusoft.com/)
The site for Toni Weschler's book which includes message boards, chat and cycle galleries which are very helpful.

Fertility Friend (www.fertilityfriend.com)
A free charting site which includes a lot of information and cycle galleries.

Local Support
RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/chapters/resolvenearyou.jsp?name=chapters)
Nation-wide referrals to local support groups and therapists.

The American Infertility Association (http://www.americaninfertility.org)
Lots of information and support, including message boards and chat rooms.

Financial Concerns
ARC: Advanced Reproductive Care (http://www.arcfertility.com/)
information on financing infertility treatments

Family Fee Plan (http://www.amerifee.com/fertility-financing/index.asp)
information on financing infertility treatments

State Insurance Requirements (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/advocacy/insurance/index.jsp?name=advocacy&tag=insurance)
Links from the Resolve site about insurance & laws.

Inciid's Insurance pages (http://www.inciid.org/index.php)
Click through menu on right for more financial topics and the insurance forum.

General TTC
Trying To Conceive.com (http://www.tryingtoconceive.com/)
All things TTC! Lots of info as well as a place to buy herbal therapies for
conceiving.

Baby Med (http://www.babymed.com/)
Tons of information. Everything from Chinese gender charts to an FAQ section on pretty much any TTC question you could have.

Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com)
Baby makin' supplies!

OBGYN.net (http://www.obgyn.net/)
Lots of general info on women's health. They also have doctors on line who
answer questions.

Infertility Sites
INCIID (http://www.inciid.org/)
Pronounced "inside". (The International Council on Infertility Information Dissemination)
Excellent national resource.

Resolve (http://www.resolve.org)
Wonderful site with lots of infertility information and support.

I dream of baby (http://www.idreamofbaby.com/fertility.php)
Learn the basics of fertility issues here. This site also has a great message
board community!

Fertility Plus.org’s list of female hormone levels (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female)
Starting your fertility work-up? Check out this site to see a list of the
commonly tested female hormone levels, the function of each hormone, and the normal levels of each hormone.

Shared Journey (http://www.sharedjourney.com)
Shared Journey is dedicated to providing quality information on topics such as
infertility, miscarriage, surrogacy, pregnancy after infertility, living
child-free, and adoption. Our information is supplied by well noted Reproductive
Endocrinologist's, Psychologists, Adoption professionals and links through
various sites.

FertileHeart (http://www.fertileheart.com)
A community of people exploring holistic approaches to fertility. A site by
author Julia Indichova (see books above)

Specific IF Issues
Soul Cysters (http://www.soulcysters.com)
PCOS site with lots of support and info

Dr. Beer (http://www.repro-med.net)
Reproductive Immunology information, including lists of tests, pricing, local referrals

Reproductive Immunology Support (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/immunologysupport/)
Yahoo group for RI patients, tons of info and articles

Info for Family and Friends
Empty Arms (http://www.vocalicious.com/empty_arms/empty_arms_mod.html)
This is a great video so they can understand what you're going through. (And get out your kleenex!)

[Baby Lust]

- Member ETF Status

Lutealating:

Think I O'ed - Testing 7/10 - 7/16:
Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d), Heidi0622 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/549f8), Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78), ShannonGH (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ShannonGH), Stumbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b1333)

Think I O'ed - Testing 7/17 - 7/24:
Babylove (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=lotsofbabylove), LittleStar (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c204a)

Think I O'd - Testing 7/25 - 7/31:
GMB4503 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28f73), hbeshore (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/721bb)

Folliculating:
Waiting to O (a/k/a Boring Part of the Cycle)
Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d), CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas ), DallasLady (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1b17d), dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78), ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003), Flygirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/flygirl), Gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d), Guinness (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=9&id=guinness&tc=0&p=), Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65), JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf), Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2), Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994), Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6), Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125), Missy328 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de), MMHinCA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1), MrsCantDecide (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59e5b), mrsT2b2003 ( http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/alt), Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622), SilentBunny (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ae6c8), UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)

Stagnating:
What the *bleep* is going on?!?!

Taking a Charting Break/Temporarily TTA:
SWH: Baby Lust (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel)

Percolating:
Proud Owners of BFPs!
July: Elenitsa (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=13&id=elenitsa&tc=0&p=), Tracie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a18c8), Tunibell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461)
June: Christy5599, Lovin'it

Tributatoring:
Proud Cheerleaders!
Sevilla (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1b18e), t3h_wookie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/25336)

Please advise if I’m off-target with your ETF (that's Estimated Test-Fest) or other status, or just need a good old-fashioned Ovary Shout!

-- Please remember to post all updates in red! Thank you!

[Baby Lust]

Things I Have Learned About TTC
by WC's Sherylb
* TTC is a journey. You will discover things about yourself that you never expected. You will face fears you never thought you had. You will find joy in little things.
* TTC can bring you closer to your DH, or it can pull you apart. If your marriage is not solid, you will find out quickly.
* No one understands exactly what you are feeling at any given moment, but someone can empathize at least a little bit.
* You will experience an emotional roller coaster ride. There will be highs and lows and fast moments and slow. Sometimes you have to wait in a very, very slow moving line. You may not even get the seat you want. It is not always fun, it can be scary, but in the end it is worth it.
* "Just relax" is the last thing in the world you want to hear from someone, but it is OK if you say it about yourself.
* There will be moments when you question your own decision to start TTC. You will wonder if you should wait or if you should just give up. Those are normal. But you will get past those feelings.
* The blue and green turtle likes to pop its head out! You will hear of someone's pregnancy and turn green with envy and blue inside because it isn't you.
* It isn't fair, it isn't easy, and it isn't pretty. But you keep doing it because the reward is worth it.
* You will be your best friend and your worst enemy. Your body will
surprise you and yet disappoint you.
* Some women do get lucky and conceive right away. Others aren't so lucky and have to struggle to get there. Hope you will be in the first category, but prepare yourself to be in the second.
* Once you decide to TTC, there will be babies and pregnant women everywhere! You could swear there is a baby boom going on!
* You will have questions. No one will ever be in exactly your position, so don't be surprised when no one can give you exactly the answer you are looking for. But there are people that can contribute, so don't be afraid to ask!
* Two lines on a pregnancy test is not the end of the struggle. Pregnancy has lots of struggles in and of itself.



- HTP sensitivity chart

These numbers might come in handy when shopping for HPTs. The lower the amount of mIU measured, the more sensitive the test is!

If you know the sensitivity of a test not listed here, please let me know

AimStick Pregnancy Test Strip 20 mIU
AccuHome Midstream Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Pregnancy Test (Cup) 25 mIU
Clearblue +/- 25 mIU
Clearblue Digital 25 mIU
Confirm 1-Step Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Dollar Store Brand Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Equate Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
First Response Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
One Step Be Sure Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Precise Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Quickview Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Walgreen Digital 25 mIU
e.p.t. Home Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
Fact Plus Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
CVS Cartridge Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
CVS Midstream Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Drug Emporium Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. + / - Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. Certainty Digital Test 50 mIU
early Pregnancy test 50 mIU
RiteAid Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Target Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
WalMart Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Walgreens Pregnancy Test 100 mIU


- Common TTC abbreviations

This is a list of some of the more common TTC abbreviations. I know as a newcomer to the TTC threads, it can be hard to keep them all straight. I hope these will help, and if anyone has any they would like added, please let me know!

•2WW: "2 week wait" - The approximate time from possible conception to menstruation due date; Pregnancy tests should be taken near the end of the 2WW.
•AF: "Aunt Flo"; Your period; Menstruation
•AFNW: "Aunt Flo Not Wanted"; the day your period is expected to start, but you are hoping it doesn't!
•AO: anovulatory (cycle without ovulation)
•BBs: "boobs"; breasts
•BBL: "be back later"
•BBT: Basal Body Thermometer; This is used to measure your basal body temperature, when you wake up in the morning, after at least 3 hours of sleep, before you start to move around; Use a special BBT thermometer to take your temperature because they measure the small changes in temperature from day to day more accurately than the regular fever thermometers.
•BCP: Birth control pills
•BDing: "baby dancing"; baby-making intercourse
•BFN: "Big Fat Neutral" or “Big Fat Negative”; Negative pregnancy test.
•BF: breast-feeding
•BRB: "be right back"
•CD: cycle day; a particular day in your menstrual cycle (example: CD1 is the first day of your period)
•CL: Cover Line; a visual tool used to separate the low (pre-ovulatory) temps from high (post-ovulatory) temps; a coverline is typically based on the temperatures 6 days prior to ovulation.
•CM: cervical mucous; one of the most useful clues your body can give you in predicting your fertility; it can range from dry, creamy, sticky, or (the most fertile) egg white/watery type.
•CF: cervical fluid; same as cervical mucus
•CP : cervical position; an optional, but sometimes really useful, fertility sign; CP will generally be low, firm and closed before and after ovulation, and high, soft and open during your fertile time.
•DD : "dear daughter"
•DH : "dear husband"
•DS : "dear son"
•DPO : Days Past Ovulation; number of days from your post-ovulatory temperature rise. (Example: 1DPO is the day after your ovulation)
•Endo : endometriosis (can be a fertility problem)
•EDC and EDD : estimated date of confinement (antiquated, but still used by physicians) and estimated date of delivery
•EPT : a brand of pregnancy test, or, generic for "early pregnancy test "
•EW or EWCM : egg white cervical mucus; the most fertile quality CM; it is slippery, clear and stretchy, like egg whites; also EWCF
•FAM : Fertility Awareness Method; the method of fertility and/or birth control that correlates the physical changes you experience during your cycle to predict when you are most fertile
•FF : Fertility Friend, an online (free, for basic services) fertility charting site (website); (could also be formula feeding; check context)
•FM : fertility monitor
•FMU : first morning urine
•FP : follicular phase; the phase before ovulation, where the egg matures in the ovaries
•FRED : First Response Early Detection (pregnancy test)
•HCG : human chorionic gonadotropin; the hormone that is present during pregnancy and what the HPT's and blood test measure to determine if you are pregnant
•HTH : "hope that helps"
•HPT : home pregnancy test; a urine pregnancy test you can do at home
•IMHO : "in my humble opinion"
•IMO : "in my opinion"
•IUI : intra-uterine insemination
•IVF : in vitro fertilization
•KU : knocked up
•LH : leutenizing hormone; the LH surge is what is measured by the OPKs; this hormone signals the egg to burst from the ovary
•LP : luteal phase; the phase of your cycle that begins just after ovulation and continues for 10-18 days, ending with the start of your next period; during the LP, your body continues to build up the lining of your uterus, and produce hormones which would support a pregnancy; this is the time when a fertilized egg can implant into the uterine lining
•NFP : Natural Family Planning; similar to FAM, but with abstinence during the fertile period
•O, Oing, Oed : ovulation, ovulating, or ovulated
•OPK : ovulation predictor kit; tests for presence of LH surge that usually precedes ovulation by 12-48 hours; these tests are quite expensive and not always accurate (if you take medication or depending on your age); these are optional when charting with FF, but if your fertility data is not clear it can bring more light and help interpret difficult cases
•OS : Ovusoft; charting software based on TCOYF
•PCOS : polycystic ovarian syndrome (a fertility problem)
•PG : pregnant
•PIAC : pee in a cup
•POAS : pee on a stick
•RE : reproductive endocrinologist
•SA : semen analysis
•SH : "sweet husband"
•SO : "significant other"
•SYS , SYL : See ya soon! or See ya later!
•TCOYF : Taking Charge Of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler; a book and website about charting and fertility.
•TMI : "too much information" - There is no such thing when TTC!
•TTA : "trying to avoid"
•TTC : "trying to conceive"
•TTFN : "ta-ta for now"
•TTYL , TTYS : "talk to you later" or "talk to you soon"

[flygirl]

Our new thread!!

[Baby Lust]

Our Members:

Baby (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel)Lust (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=strawberry+lemonade)
WC Name: Shanes_Angel
Me: Amanda/22
DH: Shane/27
Married since: 10/19/02
No longer avoiding: 10/03
Charting since: 6/04
TTC since: 3/04
Known issues/test results: B/W: 12/04 - Normal! SA-high count, lower motility and no ovulation; 50mg Clomid April/May; Chemical pregnancy 6/13; 100mg Clomid June

Babylove (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=lotsofbabylove)
Me: babylove (Tracee)
DH: Kevin
married: 08/31/03
Off BCP: November 2004
TTC: March 2005
Known issues: m/c @ 6w4d in April 2005; short LP corrected w/ progesterone supplements

Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d)
WC Name: Bellefior
ME: 36
DH: 35
Married since: 5/31/03
Off BCP since: 5/05
TTC since: 5/05
Charting since: 5/05
Known issues/test results: None

CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas)
WC username: ManzekM
ME: MMT age 33
DH: CT age 36
Married: 11/04
Off BCP: 12/04
TTC since: 01/05
Issues: Long cycles

DallasLady (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1b17d)
WC Name: Dallas_Lady
Me: Giovanna, 25
DH: Tony, 39
Married since: 9-21-2001
Off BCP since: Nov. 2002
TTC since: Jan. 2005
Charting since: Nov. 2002
Known issues/test results: None (yet)

dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78)
WC Name: dlk78
Me: Dana/27
DH: Nick/31
Married since: 9/18/04
Off BCP since: 2/2005
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 2/2005
Known issues/test results: none that I know

ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003)
Me: 27
DH: 31
Married since: 11/08/03
Off BCP: 12/03
TTC since: 6/04
Charting since: 7/04
Known issues: dx PCOS 7/04, annovulatory
Test results: DH's SA-normal; HSG 1/14/05-normal; Ovarian Drilling 5/20/05-all other findings normal
Meds: 3 failed Clomid cycles (50, 100, 150 mg); Currently only taking 1500mg Metformin

Elenitsa (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=13&id=elenitsa&tc=0&p=)
Me: Eleni/30
DH: Vasilis/39
Married since: 01.31.04
Off BCP since: never on it
TTC since: June 2005
Charting since: 2004
Known issues/test results: none

Flygirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/flygirl)
WC Name: flygirl
Me: Jen, 30
DH: Jeff, 35
Married since: 2/22/03
Off BCP since: 4/03
TTC since: Starting as soon as I see DH again!
Charting since: 4/04
Known issues/test results: none

Freckles
WC Name: ilovepac
ME: 29
DH: 36
Married since: 2/1/03
Off BCP since: Never really on BCPs
TTC since: 6/04
Charting since: 9/04
Known issues/test results:Too many issues to list here, but suffice to say I am taking a drug ****tail of clomid 100 mg, progesterone, and estrogen.

Gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d)
WC Name: gator97
Me: Kristen/29
DH: Peter/29
Married since: 11/06/04
Off BCP since: 12/04
TTC since: 2/05
Charting since: 12/04
Known issues/test results:none

GMB4503 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28f73)
WC Name: gc2003
Me: Gina/26
DH: Steve/26
Married since: April 5, 2003
Off BCP since: Sept 03
TTC since: June 04
Charting Since: Oct 04

Guinness (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=9&id=guinness&tc=0&p=)
Me: Caroline (30)
DH: Tom (31)
Married since: 4/25/03
Off BCP since: 8/04
TTC since: 6/05
Charting since: 8/04
Known issues/test results: None

hbeshore (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/721bb)
WC name: htravelo
Me: Holly, 29
DH: Jason, 31
Married since: 6/19/04
Off BCP: 10/03 (I think)
TTC since: 9/04 off and on
Charting Since: 1/2005
No Known Issues

Heidi0622 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/549f8)
Me: Heidi / 29
DH: Mike / 29
Married: 6/22/02
TTC since: 3/04
Charting since: 6/04
Known issues: m/c at 5.5 wks 10/04, SA excellent, saline u/s all clear, bw normal, unexplained IF, started 50mg Clomid 06/05

Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65)
WC Name: Ilovemygeek
Me: Rachel (22)
DH: Trevor (23)
Married since: June 8, 2002
Off BCP since: June 12, 2005
TTC since: As soon as my cycles regulate themselves
Charting since: June 12, 2002

Jane&Andy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c455f)
Me: Jane, 28
DH: Andy, 31
Married: May 24, 2003
Off BCP since: Dec 04
TTC since: April 05
Charting since: June 05

JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf)
WC Name: jodylovesscotty
Me: Jody, 31
DH: Scott, 31
Married Since: August 30, 2003
Off BCP Since: At least 10 years now
Charting Since: January 2005
Known Issues: None

Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2)
Me: Kelly, 24
DH: Jared, 23
Married since: 8/2/03
DS: Kaeden: 8/15/04
TTC since: April 2005
Charting since: June 2005
Known issues/test results: none

Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994)
Me: Katmg, 26
DH: Jim, 30
Married since: Nov. 8, 2003
Off BCP since: 05/04
Charting since: 08/04
TTC since: 05/05

Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6)
WC Name: Kopper
Me: Kopper/26
DH: 28
Married since: 9/21/02
Off BCP since: Sometime in 2001
TTC since: 7/04
Charting since: 3/05
Known issues/test results: None

LittleStar (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c204a)
Me: Julie (30)
DH: Bradley (31)
Married: 3/10/2001
Off BCP: 6/2005
TTC: 6/2005

Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125)
Me: Liz (30)
DH: Chris (33)
Married since: Sept. 20, 2003
Off BCP since: May 2005
TTC since: May 2005
Charting since: May 2005
Known issues/test results: none

Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78)
WC Name: marteneym
Me: 22
DH: 27
Married since: October 4, 2003
SWH since: October 2004
TTC since: December 2004
Off BCP since: September 2004
Known issues/test results: None

Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e)
WC Name: mayham
Me: 28
DH: 28
Married since: 5.02
Off BCP since: 9.03
TTC since: 3.05
Charting since: 5.05
Known issues/test results: None

Missy328 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de)
WC Name:Missy32708
Me: Lisa/36
DH: Jim/37
DD: Katie 4-16-04
Married since: 5/17/03
Off BCP since: 12/04
TTC since: 12/04
Charting since: 3/05
Known issues/test results:none

MMHinCA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1)
WC Name: july26bride
Me: M (27)
DH: E (29)
Married since: July.26.2003
Off BCP since: June.2005
TTC since: June.2005
Charting since: June.23.2005
Known issues/test results: None yet.

MrsCantDecide ( http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59e5b)
WC Name: MissCantDecide
Me: Stefani/28
DH: Shane/31 (on 7/11)
Married since: May 4th, 2002
Off BCP since: March 2004
TTC since: July 2004
Charting since: July 2004
Known issues/test results: Short LP

mrsT2b2003 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/alt)
WC Name: mrsT2b2002
Me:30
DH:36
Married since: 9/7/03
Charting since: 2/05
Known issues/test results: None

Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622)
Me: Rachel/25
DH: Joe/31
Married since: 6/22/02
Off BCP since: 11/2002
TTC since: 5/05
Charting since: 10/03
Known issues/test results: short LP-taking B6, magnesium, and zinc

ShannonGH (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ShannonGH)
Me: Shannon (28)
Dh: Burton (32)
Married: 10/19/02
Charting since: 5/03
TTC since: 6/05
Known issues: Short LP

ShelbyMay
Me: Shelby/25
DH: James/27
Married since: 5/17/03
Off BCP since: early September 2004
TTC since: 2/16/05
Charting since: 9/08/04
Known issues/test results: possible semen allergy/antibodies

SilentBunny (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ae6c8)
Me: Kirsten,34
DH: Sean, 31
Married since: May 22, 2004
Off BCP since: End of january, 2005
TTC since:February 2005
Charting since: Consistently since April 7, 2005
Known issues: Crazy-ass long cycles which run in the family

Stumbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b1333)
Me: Stumbles, 24.
DH: 37.
Married since: September 14, 2002.
Off BCP since: December, 2002.
TTC since: May, 2005.
Charting since: May, 2005.
Known issues/test results: None.

Tracie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a18c8)
WC Name: Tracie61
Me: Tracie/28
DH: 30
Married since: June 29. 2002
Off BCP since: December 31, 2004
TTC since: January 2005 (on and off)
Charting since: March 2005
Known issues/test results: Family history of fertility problems

Tunibell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461)
WC Name: tunibell
Me: Jessika, 30
DH: Pete, 28
Married Since: June 12, 2004
Off BCP Since: April 2005
Charting Since: April 2005
Known Issues: None

UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)
WC name: UTchick
Me: Kathy 27 (28 in August)
DH: Mike 34
Married since: September 20, 2003
Off BCP since: December 2004
TTC since: May 2005
Charting since: May 2005

Post Away! :D

http://www.anthonyofadelaide.com.au/assets/images/db_images/db_37931_BABY_FEET_SLEEP1.jpg

[flygirl]

Now I can say HI!!! Yay for the new thread!

[kmmommy]

Thanks for a new thread Amanda!

[Baby Lust]

Babylove, I am confused as to why you said OS gave you CHs. Do you mean the cross on your chart? That is simply telling you that you have entered your fertile period. Your CL will fluctuate as you enter more temps. Is that what you meant?

[babylove]

Baby Lust ~ Yup...gotcha...6 cycles and I still don't *get it*!! :rolleyes: My temp went back down today a bit (from 97.74 to 97.69)...thank god!

***

Leaving for the beach after work tonight, so everyone have a safe and relaxing July 4th weekend! I won't have any internet access from tonight through Tuesday evening, so I hope I come back to lots of BFPs!!!

[jodylovesscotty]

Just checking in.

I am hoping there are plenty of firecrackers this month!!!!

And I am hoping that I will get to be one of them :) If would be the best birthday present ever. I still haven't gotten AF yet, but I am guessing she is on the way today since I am having some bad camps and the bbs stopped hurting. I didn't temp today cuz I just didn't want to see that loooow temp. And I slept so well not thinking about temping. I think I might do what some of the other ladies do, as soon as I am positive I Oed then I will stop temping and actually get a good nights sleep.

QOTD: Do you have a VIP subsciption to FF. If you do is it worth the money?

[jeeplover]

Thank you for the new thread! Let's hope that July is the month for all of us! I am hoping it is for me!

COME ON BFP'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Also to answer the QOTD I have a VIP subscription to FF and I have found that it is worth it, I have had mine since November.

[Baby Lust]

QOTD: I don't have a FF VIP but I did purchase an Ovusoft subscription. OS is based on TCOYF and 9 times out of 10 is more accurate than FF. It might be worth it though! You should try OS as a 15 day free trial. That's what made me decide to buy! ;)

[gmb4503]

Checking in :)

QOTD I have VIP on FF and use it all the time!

[Tracie]

Hi, ladies, can I join?

WC Name: Tracie61
Me: Tracie/28
DH: 30
Married since: June 29. 2002
Off BCP since: December 31, 2004
TTC since: January 2005 (on and off)
Charting since: March 2005
Known issues/test results: Family history of fertility problems
Chart: I'm going to have to post a link later...this is kind of a drive-by posting on my way to work!
Current status: 2WW, FF says to test on the 5th, but I think I might wait until the 6th. If I can. :)


QOTD I do have a VIP membership, my friend actually bought it for me as a gift. I do think it's worth it, but I've never tried Ovusoft. I might have to check it out!

[MrsCantDecide]

Hiya Girls! I'm just checking into the new thread too! Thanks Amanda for the beautiful new thread! :D

[Elenitsa]

Hi. It's Official --BFP!!!. I confirmed it this am.

~*~*~*~*~* BABY DUST TO EVERYONE*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

I hope this is your month too!!!

QOTD I have used Ovusoft from the beginning. I think it bought it as a package with the book.

[Bellefior]

Congrats to Elenitsa!

As for me, I am currently on CD 16, with no sign of O'ing, no temp drop, nada, though if this month follows last month (FF says I O'ed at CD 17), I might see it tommorrow. I had one weird temp drop at CD 7, but since it was way to early for me to be O'ing this month I chalked it up to an aberration and nothing more!

We're off for the weekend so Happy 4th Everyone!

[mrst2b2003]

congrats Elenitsa!!! I hopoe I can join you soon


Just waiting here at 9 DPO trying to resist the temptation to test till next monday which will be 12 DPO



Hope you all have a great 4th of July!!!!



Amy


QOTD I too have a FF VIP membership and find it very helpful

[CTs_Punkin]

Ok... first, thanks babylust for the beeeutiful new thread.

Second, I think (I don't want to get my hopes up, as it's just one temp) that I might have O'd.... I'm on CD58....Crossing my fingers that I did. If I did, the Dr. would be able to run a prog. test on me to double check that if I have next week (I go in on Tue)

Anyhow, after two weeks of my temp hovering around 97.0 a jump like this is pretty exciting.... I have to wait until tomorrow & Sun what that says, but am trying to stay hopefuly in a really long A$$ cycle for me.

Hope everyone enjoys the long holiday weekend.
MMT

oops, edited to add: CONGRATULATIONS Elenista!!

[jeeplover]

Congrats Elenista!


Sidenote on the QOTD: How much does OS cost and is it lifetime like FF is?

[DallasLady]

QOTD: I just got a VIP this month. Silly me didn't think I'd be TTC long enough to need it :rolleyes:. I also have ovusoft, but I bought that back in 2002 when I was TTA.

My temp dipped down just a bit today. Of course I tested, BFN. I have learned my lesson about keeping tests around in hopes that a BFP magically appears. I threw the test away within 10 minutes. I consider that progress for me :D. My goal next month is to be able to wait until at last 12 dpo to start testing (Yeah, right).

Congrats to Elenista!

[UTChick]

Dallas~
I am sorry about your BFN. And I also understand the difficulty in making yourself wait to test. Last month I tested on 9dpo (which also happened to be Father's Day) and when I got the BFN I kept telling myself that I had tested too early for it to be detected. I had planned to keep testing about every other day after that, but AF came. This time I vow to only start testing after 12 dpo. We'll see how I hold out. You know, when my friends were TTC, I would always say to them, "Hey, there's always next month." Now that I am TTC, I am realizing how long a month can really be and I find myself thinking "Now I have to wait another whole month!"



Edited to add:Congrats Elenitsa!!

[aprilshowers]

Yeah, Dallas! I am so proud of you! :D One step at a time. I'm sorry for the BFNeutral :(

Congrats, Elenitsa! A very happy and healthy 9 months to you!

[ShannonGH]

Good morning ladies! Thanks Amanda for the new thread! Looks great!

And we already have a BFP!?! Congrats to Elensita! Happy and Healthy 9 months to you!!!

My temp went up a little today but it's still below where my pre-O temps usually are. I think I'm O'ing today. We've bd'ed the past two nights but may try to sneak one more in tonight before my EWCM dries up. ;)

I'm sorry Jody about your cramps starting. I totally understand about not wanting to see your low temp this morning. I'm going to stop temping post O, once I confirm it with tomorrow's temp. I've started waking up at like 5:30am anticipating the need to temp...then I can't get back to sleep. I'm hoping eliminating the post O temp will help with that.

Sorry for the temp dip Dallas. :(

Welcome Tracie!

Does anyone have any fun plans for the 4th other than babylove?

[flygirl]

Congrats Elenista!

Dallas, you're still looking good!

Welcome, Tracie!

QOTD: Do you have a VIP subsciption to FF. If you do is it worth the money?
I have a VIP Gold life-time membership. I purchased it right after the free trial ended, and I think it's been totally worth it.

Now I have a question. My friend's TTC & charting and is in the middle of her strangest, now longest cycle ever. Unfortunately she missed a few temps and we can't figure out when she O'd. Can y'all take a quick look at her chart & tell me what you think? Friend's Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/866a1)

[tunibell]

Congratulations Elensita!!! :D :D :D

It's official...Threadmistress, would you kindly move me to Think I O-ed - Testing 7/3 - 7/9?

Had my highest post-O temp ever (so far, anyhow) this morning - 97.7!

I've decided if this cycle doesn't pan out, I'm going to TTA for the next three months. I"ve managed to gain back all 15 of the pounds I lost for my wedding and would really like a shot at taking off some weight before pregnancy. Also, I'm starting a new job on July 18, and would like to establish my competence before I start falling asleep at my desk or (horrors) spontaneously booting in my waste basket.

[DallasLady]

I'm going to stop temping post O, once I confirm it with tomorrow's temp. I've started waking up at like 5:30am anticipating the need to temp...then I can't get back to sleep. I'm hoping eliminating the post O temp will help with that.

I have the exact same problem. During the 2ww I end up waking up too early because I am obsessing over what my temperarture will be. Is it still high? Implantation dip? Triphasic?

I didn't temp past O in May... it REALLY helped put TTC out of my mind. I think that I am going to do that from now on. TTC is making me think that I am OCD or something :D

[ds2003]

Congrats Elenista

QOTD - I have VIP membership but can't really say if I think it is worth it yet as this is my first ovulatory cycle. During my annovulatory cycles I didn't think it gaves any additional useful info.

I am going to try and hold out until Monday, July 4th. I'll be 12DPO. If my temps still look good, I will test.

[jodylovesscotty]

Well I knew it was coming, AF made her apperance :mad: Doesn't she know she is not welcome.

Threadmistress... Can you please move me to waiting to O.

I think maybe I will try ovusofts free 15 day trial and get a vip in FF just for kicks. I am not going to start them until after AF leaves the building. Thanks for you opinion ladies :)

[dlj78]

Congrats Elenista!!!!

I'm on CD 34 and I think AF is just around the corner! My temp was still high this morning but my BBs hurt so bad which is a true sign of her!

Have a great weekend everyone, stay safe! :D

[mayham]

Hi! I'd love to join you ladies. I posted a few times on this thread on the wc. Just getting some time now to catch up with everything and the threads over here.

Here's my info:

WC Name: mayham
Me: 28
DH: 28
Married since: 5.02
Off BCP since: 9.03
TTC since: 3.05
Charting since: 5.05
Known issues/test results: None
Chart: FF Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e)
Current status: CD 10, waiting to O

[ShannonGH]

Dallas, earlier I said I was sorry about your temp drop without even looking at your chart...you are still so in this cycle girl! Here's hoping your temps stay high!!!

Glad you joined us over here mayham!

dlj78, umm hello...sore bbs can be a pg sign too! :D Thinking positive thoughts for ya!!! :D

jody, sorry the witch found you. :(


ds2003, crossing all crossables that you get a BFP on the 4th of July!!!

[t3h_wookiee]

Here's the link to my chart

Chart Link (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/25336)

[dlj78]

Thanks Shannon!! Your post made me LOL! I'm not feeling it this cycle, BD was all off but I would be the happiest person if I got a BFP! ;) :D If she doesn't come tomorrow I will test on Sunday ;)

[Baby Lust]

Updated to here!

Congratulations Elenitsa! H & H 9 months to you!

Welcome Traci and Mayham! I hope your stay is short and sweet!

Dallas, Sorry about the BFN but you are still in it!

Dana, Sore bbs are TOTALLY a pg sign! Thinking good thoughts for you!

Jody, So sorry about AF! :( {{{HUGS}}}

Flygirl, I think your friend's chart looks good... I think she pegged her O as best as possible! And there's a nice dip in there too! ;)

How come ya'll didn't tell me I didn't have our member list posted??? I thought I was losing my mind!! :rolleyes: The thread should be complete now! :)

[Baby Lust]

I am missing chart like for the following people! Please post if you would like it linked! If not, that's fine too! :cool: Thanks!
Freckles
MMHinCA
ShelbyMay
Tracie

[ds2003]

jody I'm sorry the wicked witch found you.

[babylove]

CONGRATS ELENSITA!!!!
H&H 9 MO TO YOU!!!!

jody ~ Sorry about AF :(

Dallas ~ Sorry about the temp drop, but you know...it ain't over yet!!

***

Leaving for the beach in a few minutes (so excited I can barely contain myself!)....we are going w/ BIL and SIL and I am anticipating O'ing while we are away so I have to bring my progesterone supplements and HIDE THEM. I don't want BIL and SIL to know what's going on. I am going to tell them that it's my acne medicine (it has to be refrigerated)...let's hope SIL doesn't ask to try it! :D

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND!!

[gmb4503]

Oh lovely threadmistress could you please update my stats. I am missing a line and the dates were in the wrong places. They should be:

WC Name: gc2003
Me: Gina/26
DH: Steve/26
Married since: April 5, 2003
Off BCP since: Sept 03
TTC since: June 04
Charting Since: Oct 04


Thank you my dear :D

[silentbunny]

ds2003, crossing all crossables that you get a BFP on the 4th of July!!!

:) This made me crack up!! I need to lose some weight, so I can no longer cross some of my "crossables"...I feel like my boobs are nearing "crossability"...

I hope this is a weekend filled with fun and much babydancing for everyone!

[kmmommy]

What does the dotted line on my chart mean?

[Tracie]

Link to my chart:
My Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a18c8)

Thanks for the welcomes, ladies, and congratulations to Elensita! :D

[DallasLady]

What does the dotted line on my chart mean?

It looks like you missed a day of temping. It does that to show that there was no temp for that day.

[kmmommy]

Yup, I missed Sunday. That makes sense I'm just too dumb to figure it out!

[LittleStar]

Hi ladies! Just a quick post to say hi and happy weekend! I'm hanging out here at CD10. Good thing work is busy b/c it's taking my mind off wondering when I'll O (well...almost :p ).

Congratulations Elenitsa !

[gator97]

Congratulations Elenitsa! Happy and Healthy nine months to you!

Jody- sorry the witch found you.

UTChick--in complete agreement about how a month now seems like an eternity!

Still in the early, boring parts of the cycle.

QOTD- I use Ovusoft and just the free FF. I like each one differently each month. I really liked Ovusoft but then I had one month where I ovulated late and it's been kind of screwy ever since. I'm not exactly sure what happened or how to fix it.

In exciting news, we got a new puppy last night. He's a yellow lab (like our other dog) and his name is Roman. He's sleeping peacefully now and I should probably be taking advantage of that and clean the house!

Happy Fourth to everyone!

[ds2003]

Please update only the Test results and Meds sections. I trimmed them down a bit.

Test results: DH's SA-normal; HSG 1/14/05-normal; Ovarian Drilling 5/20/05-all other findings normal
Meds: 3 failed Clomid cycles (50, 100, 150 mg); Currently only taking 1500mg Metformin

[Elenitsa]

Hi girls, if anyone is around this weekend... I'm getting some brown spotting, but my temps are still high? Implantation? What do you think?

[dlj78]

Elenitsa ~ I hear that brown spotting is normal. I'm not sure if it's implantation or not.


I was wondering if anyone had the Mayo Clinic pregnancy book? I had ordered it from the State Farm website and got it for FREE! It's a huge book and has some great info there. I'll get the link if anyone is interested. :)

[Guinness]

Congrats Elenitsa!

Happy 4th to everyone :D

Temp drop this am, perhaps this is a pre-O dip.

late to the QOTD- I use ovusoft. I haven't tried FF

Thanks for the new thread Babylust!!

[UTChick]

Ok...this is part vent/part new QOTD.

Have you felt like your new purpose in life/role in your marriage has become a procreation machine?

Let me explain my thoughts. It seems like since I have started charting and really paying attention to my cycles, DH approaches sex primarily (or solely it seems) as baby-making. Period. Maybe I am just being moody, but the question "Are we in the window yet?" seems to be the deciding factor (for DH) on whether or not we have sex. Like we can't just do it for fun anymore?!? I know DH is so, so eager to have a baby and I cannot express how lucky I am to have a husband this excited and on-board about becoming a father. I guess I feel like I am no longer the 'sexy wife' but more the 'baby maker.' Does anyone else ever feel like this? I brought it up last night, and of course, he reassured me that he still finds me sexy, etc. and that he is just eager for us to get pregnant. I know that getting pg, especially for someone with irregular cycles like I have been known to have, takes some planning and evaluation. It just seems like romance is slowing fading into the background. KWIM? Please tell me I am not alone in these feelings.

[DallasLady]

I am right there with you UT Chick. Just take a look at my chart, we don't have sex outside of ovulation hardly at all anymore. The worst part about feeling like a reproduction machine is feeling like a broken reproduction machine.

Elenista Spotting in early pg is normal. Once you have seen that BFP, implantation has already occured.

[UTChick]

Dallas~ EXACTLY!!!



Ok...I have some questions about O kits. Two cycles ago, I had a 38 day cycle and last cycle was 33 days. I think the 38 day cycle was a fluke because prior cycles (although I wasn't charting) seemed to be more like 30-34 days and because I was under a tremendous amount of stress at that time. So...if I am assuming another 33 day cycle, I need to test for O at CD 17, right? And I believe I read (maybe even in this thread) that O occurs up to 24hrs after LH surge, so we need to BD within 24 hrs of positive O test? I know this has been covered before but I am so new to this and need it dummied down. Possible O window will probably be sometime between mid-week to the weekend and DH has to go out of town Thursday afternoon through Saturday evening. I can't seem to get this all straight! :confused:

[Baby Lust]

Updated to here!

Hope everyone is having a wonderful holiday weekend!

Gator, Congrats on the puppy! He sounds adorable!

Elenitsa, Brown spotting is completely normal! Your body is just getting rid of the old blood. Don't worry about it, unless it turns red.

dlj, I ordered the Mayo book a while back and love it! I would highly suggest everyone get one!

UT, Unfortunately, that tends to happen once TTC begins, no matter how hard you try not to let it. It is very sad. The only advice I can give you is make a point to DTD from AF to AF... not constantly, by any means, unless you want to ;) but make a point to have sex without thinking about BDing. HTH! {{HUGS}}



So I was chart-stalking and there are some beautiful charts out there! How awesome would that be if we could close down this thread by Tuesday!? :eek: :D

My temps have been all over the place lately, which is strange because they were so stable in the beginning! I think I am O'ing today, since I have always O'd on CD20 since I started Clomid.


Enjoy the long weekend everyone! Wear sunscreen and don't drink and drive! :cool:

[Ilovemygeek]

I think I might actually be O'ing today! I had a little cramping on the left side and EWCM. This is CD21 of my first cylce of BCP and I was not sure what to expect. I am actually kind of excited! Now all I have to do is seduce my DH. :D

My temps are always really high compared to other charts, even though I typically run a low temperature and am always cold. Does anyone else have this issue? Is it from discontinuing BCP?

[Baby Lust]

Morning ladies! Just popping in for a quick update and to chart-stalk!

I'm pretty sure I O'd yesterday, but for some reason, if I add a couple more high temps, FF does not give me CHs. :confused: It's weird. So we'll see what happens.


Off to enjoy the weather! :)

[dlj78]

Hey everyone!

Well my temp went down today :( And I went to the bathroom earlier and the beginnings of AF were there :( :mad: Oh well, hopefully next time!

Hope everyone is enjoying their weekend!

[ShannonGH]

I believe I O'ed yesterday (cd15). Although FF had me as O'ing on cd13 so I went in an manually changed it.

Threadmistress, would you please move me to Think I O'ed - Testing 7/10 - 7/16. BTW, thanks for compiling all of the links on the first page...those are great!

UTChick, unfortunately I don't feel all that qualfied to answer your question about OPKs since I just used them for the first time. But I do think that once you first get a positive, O usually happens within 48 hours. however sometimes it can happen within 24 hours. So to answer your question, you should definitely bd when you first get a +OPK and then again maybe 24-36 hours later. HTH!

Ilovemygeek have fun making fireworks of your own this 4th of the july weekend! ;)

Baby Lust yay for O'ing!!!

dlj78, sweetie I'm so sorry for the beginning stages of AF :( {{{Hugs}}}

[Lizard]

Just subscribing. :)

[Baby Lust]

Updated to here!

Shannon, Looks like we are cycle buddies! Let's hope this is it for us! ;) Glad you are getting use out of the links on page 1! I don't know who compiled them, but I borrowed them from the SAI ladies. :cool:

[dlj78]

Thanks Shannon! DH was upset today too. Yay for Oing yesterday! ;)

[UTChick]

Shannon~
Thanks. Once I get a +OPK, we may just need to get obsessive about BDing and see if we get it right this time. This has really become a learning process!

[LittleStar]

I woke up this morning to a big temp jump so I think I may have O'd - but threadmistress please don't change my stats just yet. I had bad AF-like cramps on Saturday, w/ spotting - does anyone else get O pains? If it was O, I'm a little bummed b/c we were staying w/ family this weekend and couldn't BD like we should have. I can' wait to take my temp tomorrow!

[ShannonGH]

Happy 4th of July fellow TTCers!!!

Hope everyone has a happy & safe day!

Littlestar, I don't get O pains usually so I won't be able to help you out in that department. Hopefully someone else can shed some light though...

[Tracie]

Happy Fourth of July everyone!

I'm obsessing over my temps and my chart today. I should get AF tomorrow if I'm not pregnant and I got all excited because my temps didn't go down at all (and usually they start going down the day before AF). But then I remembered that I didn't have a real clear sudden temperature jump when I O'ed. FF said I O'ed on Thursday the 23rd, but it's possible I didn't O until Friday the 24th, which would make AF day Wednesday instead. I really need to stop obsessing. Someone mentioned that they don't take their temps after O'ing, which sounds like a good idea, but I do like the advance notice of a temp drop before AF. It kind of eases me into the realization that I'm not pregnant.

[Lizard]

I woke up this morning to a big temp jump so I think I may have O'd - but threadmistress please don't change my stats just yet. I had bad AF-like cramps on Saturday, w/ spotting - does anyone else get O pains? If it was O, I'm a little bummed b/c we were staying w/ family this weekend and couldn't BD like we should have. I can' wait to take my temp tomorrow!

I get O pains... sometimes they feel like AF cramps, but most of the time they feel like someone's poking me in the lower abdomen really hard, in the side that I'm O'ing from. It's different for everyone though, and so far it seems like my O pains are worse when I O on my left. I O'd on my right last month and barely could tell.

[DallasLady]

Tracie, you chart looks great! I agree with FF on your O date. Keeping my fingers crossed that those temps stay high!

On a TMI note, I have had a TON of creamy CM the past few days. I have never noticed that before, especially at the end of the 2ww. Does anyone know what the reason could be?

As for my temps, they are on the way down, and I am feeling crampy and bitchy. I wish AF would just get here already so I can go crawl into my depressed "I'm still not pregnant" hole.

[Baby Lust]

Hi everyone! I hope you are all enjoying the holiday weekend!

My temp went back down today, but I am 99.9% sure I O'd yesterday, so I'm assuming my temp will jump back up tomorrow for the 2nd eggie. I'll have to try to squeeze a BD out of DH today... That could be a chore! :rolleyes: I think we are both burned out from "having to" BD, rather than it being a voluntary thing. :(

Tracie, I hope your temps stay up!

Dallas, Creamy CM post-O is quite common. It used to be a PS but it has become more common, so I don't know if it is an indicator of anything.



Hope everyone has a wonderful night! Please be safe! :)

[missy329]

Hello Everyone-

I am so glad I found you all! I was Missy32708 on WC. I have been (and still am) on a business trip since June 21st. I have very limited computer time since my 14 month old daughter is with me! And we both have been sick. Anyway let me post my stats:

WC Name:Missy32708
Me: Lisa/36
DH: Jim/37
Married since: 5/17/03
Off BCP since: 12/04
TTC since: 12/04
Charting since: 3/05
Known issues/test results:none
Chart: http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de
Current status: Testing June 9th

I am pretty sure I am out of the running this month due to being away from my husband during "important times". But, according to my chart I O'd early this month. I don't really trust it though because my temping is kind of messed up due to the travel and very interupted sleep.

Anyway, please add me to the list and best of luck to everyone. Glad to be back with all of you!

[Baby Lust]

Updated to here!

Welcome Missy! Hope your stay is short and sweet!

[katmg]

Just checking into the new thread! I've been away for the weekend visiting DH's family in Louisiana and Mississippi. I didn't even bring my BBT with me since I knew I'd be sleeping in weird places, not necessarily with the best of privacy. I'm bummed I missed out on 3 temps. but it was kinda nice not worrying about it. Plus, since AF just left I wasn't worried about O'ing or anything. :rolleyes:

[Soulmate]

On a TMI note, I have had a TON of creamy CM the past few days. I have never noticed that before, especially at the end of the 2ww. Does anyone know what the reason could be? Just to pop in to answer DallasLady's question. Having lots of creamy *only* means high progesterone. I had a ton of it when I was on clomid (which raises progesterone among other things). Now...what seems really interesting is that you would have it at 13 and 14DPO. Why would someone have high progesterone at 13 and 14DPO...hmmmmmm? ;) I think you could test tomorrow and get an accurate result (whatever that result shall be).

ETA: Girl...you are getting a lot more action then me...and that includes non-baby making action.

[Mystikal]

Now that I finally have internet access back I can join!! :D
Here are my stats:
Me: Rachel/25
DH: Joe/31
Married since: 6/22/02
Off BCP since: 11/2002
TTC since: 5/05
Charting since: 10/03
Known issues/test results: short LP-taking B6, magnesium, and zinc
Chart: http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622
Current status: I think I O'ed, Testing July 6

[Bellefior]

Back from our long weekend ladies! FF has me at a tentative O for CD 16 with dotted cross hairs, but I am not entirely sure that's right because I didn't see a huge temp jump like last month, even though the timing sounds right.

So threadmistress, please add me to I think I O'ed!

[Baby Lust]

Updated to here!

Bellefior, I have you in the testing 7/10-7/16 catogory. Please let me know if you would like to be moved. :)

Soulmate, Great info! I had no idea! Thank you for sharing your wisdom! Hope all is well with you! :cool:

[Bellefior]

Amanda, ok to leave me at testing 7/10-7/16. If AF doesn't show I planned on testing on the 15th or 16th anyway.

[Baby Lust]

Hi everyone! Hope you are all having a good day!

I am now being led to believe that I did not O afterall... which is strange, because I ALWAYS O on CD20. So I guess the BDing continues. Hopefully I can make it a little less of a chore for the next few days. DH is getting frustrated. :o

Off to chart-stalk! Kinda hard when I'm at work, but I'll figure out a way! ;)

[Baby Lust]

Ok testers! Come out, come out wherever you are! I can't believe how many charts are saying to test today, yet there are no test results!!!!! :eek: Ladies!! Are you trying to drive us all nuts?! Hoping for good results for everyone! Good luck!

[Stumbles]

Hi there! :)

Do you mind if I join you?! :)

We're TTC number 2.

Me: Stumbles, 24.
DH: 37.
Married since: September 14, 2002.
Off BCP since: December, 2002.
TTC since: May, 2005.
Charting since: May, 2005.
Known issues/test results: None.
Chart: http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b1333
Current status: I think I O'ed, Testing July 13.

[Baby Lust]

Updated to here!

Welcome Stumbles!


I'm so sorry to all the BFNs today. :( {{{HUGS}}} to you all!

[Mystikal]

Just wanted to let you know that if my temp stays up tomorrow morning I will be testing. I don't feel pregnant. :p

[kmmommy]

Good luck Mystikal!

[Baby Lust]

I don't feel pregnant. :p
I have heard that somewhere before... but I don't think it was in a TTC THREAD! :rolleyes:

Good luck M! :D

[babylove]

I'm here! No time to catch up, as I have loads to do before going back to work tomorrow. The beach was great, and I'm sporting a great tan :D

Lots of BD'ing this weekend...though I'm not sure what the heck is going on w/ my chart. Can someone please check it out. I have both an FF chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7b375) and OS chart (in my sig). OS says I O'd yesterday (the only day we DIDN'T BD...grrr..) but I don't know if I trust it b/c my temp wasn't very high this morning. I think the OS coverline is too high b/c of a higher than normal temp oin Sunday. I discarded that temp in my FF chart......don't know what to do b/c I am supposed to start using the progesterone supps on 2DPO (tomorrow) but if I didn't really O yet, or I O'd today instead, using the supps too soon would be bad. HELP!!!

Hope you all had a wonderful 4th!!

[Baby Lust]

Babylove, Glad to hear you had a wonderful time! :D I'm jealous of your tan! And your ability to go to a beach! :p Unfortunately, I have to agree with OS and FF and say that you O'd yesterday. FF looks way more normal than OS though. If you would discard the same temps (Thurs and Fri), your CL would come down. Don't worry though... your BDing timing is great and you totally have a chance!! :D Now for the 2WW! :rolleyes:

[babylove]

BabyLust ~ Really? Even though I didn't get a big temp shift today? I don't usually get a very big one anyway, but today's temp was still kinda in the normalish range? Oh, and I checked my CP and it's still high...is that normal post O? On the other hand, I definitely think I had O pains last night and we BD'd at 8am today, so hopefully we caught the eggie!!

[kmmommy]

Good luck babylove!!

[Baby Lust]

Yes, really. :) OS makes temp jumps look tiny anyway, but FF looks good! Don't forget that the standard minimum temp shift is .02 degrees. Now look at your chart again! ;) :D I think your chances are very good! No stress! :cool:

[babylove]

Thanks :) No stress? Who me? :cool: Hehe.

KaedensMommy ~ Thanks!! :)

[heidi0622]

Hi all, I've been trying to lay low this cycle, so I haven't been checking in as much. I guess I will move myself into the correct category though...

Babylust, can you move me to O'd and testing 7/10-7/16.

I am 6DPO today. Had some strange spotting yesterday and today. I never get that...my first thought was to get all excited and think implantation spotting, but when I came to my senses and did a little research on FF, I realized that there were NO charts with implantation spotting before 8DPO.

The wacky thing is that exactly a year ago (literally to the day), I had a 22-day cycle that ended about this time. I had never had that short of a cycle before in my life. I spotted very intermittently and then AF arrived a day or two later. I just chalked it up to the fact I had been traveling a lot that month and it was my first month charting so my body was all out of sorts. I'm hoping that is not the case as that would be entirely too strange if my body did the exact same thing a year later especially while I was on Clomid.

Sorry to all those that had AF arrive and good luck to all the upcoming testers.

[Baby Lust]

Updated to here!

Good luck Heidi! I hope history does not repeat itself!

[babylove]

BabyLust ~ Can you please move me to "Think I O'd - Testing 7/17/05 - 7/24/05

(Had a MAJOR temp jump this morning--to 98.34 and that was 45 minutes earlier than my usual temp time...I just hope it's not b/c I'm getting sick, my throat is sore :( ....if I am getting sick, I hope that *some* of that temp jump is baby related!!!!!)

[babylove]

(BTW, I see some *verrrrrry* pretty charts in the waiting to test section!!!!!! A few possible implantation dips, maybe? ;) )

[Baby Lust]

Updated to here!

I have temporarily moved myself to SWH for the next couple of cycles. We are going to SWH this cycle, since I have no idea when I am going to O, then we are going to try an unmedicated cycle, then probably jump back on the TTC train. It is just getting to be too much for DH and I, and we just need a break.

Hope to see some BFPs very soon! We need to get this thread moving!! Good luck testers!

[babylove]

BabyLust ~ Good luck w/ SWH! Please let me know if I can help out with the thread in any way.

[Mystikal]

Hey everyone! Wanted to pop in real quick before work to let you know that my temp stayed up today (very unusual for 14dpo) so I tested and BFN. :confused: I wish I knew was was going on. *sigh*

Edited: Baby Lust I missed your post! ((HUGS)) I know how stressful this is on you. Let me know if you need anything!

[Bellefior]

Well FF has changed from dotted to solid crosshairs and raised my coverline so it looks like I definitely O'ed this month. Unfortunately it also pushed my O date up two days to CD 18, when we were at my in-laws beach house (with zero privacy) for the long weekend. So unless DH has some determined swimmers, this month will probably be out as well :( .

I kind of have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I am kind of disappointed, but on the other hand, since DH was laid off unexpectedly by his a-hole boss 2 weeks ago, it's sort of a relief as well. Stupid to feel that way, right? Anyway, if AF doesn't show when expected, I'll still be testing anyway, but may be pushing the test date up.

[DallasLady]

Well, she showed up :(

Threadmistress, can you move me to "Waiting to O"

[LittleStar]

Ugh - my temp went down a little today. Does that mean I probably didn't O around CD11? Does FF look for 3 temp jumps in a row before it'll say you O'd? This is our first month TTC and charting (and off BCP) so I'm a little confused. Would appreciate any advice.

I'm sorry Dallas.

[Tracie]

Hi everybody! I haven't been on since Monday, I was hoping I'd come back to at least one BFP. :( Maybe we'll get some soon. Maybe I'll be one of them!

My temps are still really high. In fact, they're higher than they've ever been. It's 13DPO and I tend to get AF at 12DPO. I'm really dying to take a test but DH isn't here, and he wants to be here for it. I will probably be testing tomorrow morning, if not tonight. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much. It seems like every month there's something that gets my hopes up just to have them crushed by crappy old AF.

[Lizard]

Ugh - my temp went down a little today. Does that mean I probably didn't O around CD11? Does FF look for 3 temp jumps in a row before it'll say you O'd? This is our first month TTC and charting (and off BCP) so I'm a little confused. Would appreciate any advice.

I think your chart looks fine... your temp did go down just a hair, but you're still going to be above your coverline when it shows up. FF looks for 3 temps above your coverline. Plus, even though it's hard, you want to look at the big picture rather than each individual temp. You look good so far! :)

My charting has been very sporadic this month because we've been travelling so much. I'm pretty sure I O'ed yesterday though. I'm going to temp until next Monday, then I'll be out of town for a whole week visiting family. No temping there, but I'll be in the 2WW anyways and won't be home until about 12 or 13 DPO. At least I won't be tempted to test too early. :)

[Elenitsa]

Dallas I'm so sorry the witch found you.

LittleStar looking at your chart you very well may have Oed, but I don't see a strong correlation with CM. A slight drop does not mean that you haven't becuase your temps seem to be on average higher than those of the first 10 cycle days. But have patience you need to give your body the chance to do its thing as you come off BC and give yourself some time to learn what that pattern.

BabyLust good luck as you SWH!!

I have also been doing some chart stalking. Looks v promising. GO BFP!!

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*baby dust ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

[gmb4503]

Amanda {{{BIG HUGS}}} You knwo I'm right there with you on the frustration!! What is going on with our charts?!

[flygirl]

Baby Lust, can you please move me from "Cheerleaders" to "Think I O'd & testing July 10-16? Thank you. Pretty big jump, huh?

I've been dying for this place to come back online! I can't talk about this with anyone else. DH came home (for a week!) unexpectedly on Sat. Just in time for me to be fertile. We agreed we should still wait until he's done with training to TTC, but the condom broke on CD15.

To make things more stressful, I've had the craziest temps this cycle, & none of them make sense. I've learned that, for me, the biggest difference in my temps comes from whether or not I had 3 hours of solid sleep first. So when I don't sleep well (half the time), my temps are higher. Luckily my CM follows an obvious pattern, so I know I O'd CD16 or 17.

So, I'm in my first official 2ww!

I'm sorry, Dallas. That sucks :mad:

Tracie, Good Luck!!!!!

Baby Lust, good luck with SWA. One way or another, I hope this is a stress-free time for you & DH.

[Elenitsa]

Here 's a thought and only less then 2 cents worth, but those with really erratic temp that have been charting for a while, could the thermometers need a battery change? I forget, do they beep or blink when they are low?

[tunibell]

I did a little rehauling of my last and current charts yesterday. I realized that b/c I had coded this month's Day 1 as the first date I actually saw AF, even though it was at bedtime, I was effectively cheating my last cycle out of a LP date. So I went ahead and corrected that, which means this cycle started a day later, and I ovulated on Day 19, not Day 20. So, I'm now on cycle day 28, and 9 dpo.

Broke down and tested this morning (not b/c I expected to see anything; mainly poas withdrawal) - BFN, natch. Still, I'll probably keep testing every morning until AF shows up, which I am expecting any moment now. I've been cramping like a mf-er for the last two days and my poor bbs are terribly tender. I'd be happy if I made it until tonight, and even happier if I made it until tomorrow night without AF showing up - I'd like to hope that all the B6 I've been taking is working it's magic on my short LP. Still, if AF shows up, I won't be terribly disappointed - at least I'll get to take Advil for the cramps and have some booze (I've been abstaining from the wine since a few days before ovulation - a big thing for a wino like me!)

[Mindy3094]

I just wanted to stop in and give Amanda and Dallas Lady some big (((HUGS))).

ps--Hi Gina!

*~*~*~*~baby dust~*~*~*~*

[UTChick]

Baby Lust~ I completely understand. Back when we were in the SWH phase, I was a lot more relaxed and a lot less obsessive. The pressure was off and I didn't feel as much like a *failure* when AF came every month. KWIM? Sending good vibes your way.

Dallas~ She just doesn't know when to stay gone, does she? Good vibes being sent your way as well.

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Ok, master chart readers, help a girl out.

Do my temps look strange? I had a neg. OPK late afternoon yesterday and will do another today at about the same time to see if there is a surge. Last cycle, I thought my temps showed when I O'd but I had a shorter cycle, so I actually O'd several days prior to when I thought. This cycle I don't know what to think. Your expert opinions are greatly appreciated. ;)

My Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)

[Elenitsa]

UTChick IMHO I can't advise you about what may be going on either. It's really difficult without any indication of CM to go by. Maybe the most recent temp was a fluke. See what happens tomorrow. Remember the O day is variable each month, but the LP tends to be pretty constant. Based on your last cycle chart your CL that month seems to be about 97.4 and your temps don't really seem to go above that -- yet!

[UTChick]

You know what...I just thought about this. I was up until 4 am this morning working on a paper and then took my temp at 7am like normal. Do you think me being up so late may have caused that big of a dip? Seems like a bit of a leap, but I am just trying to figure it out.

[flygirl]

I don't think that's a leap at all. Sleep time has a huge impact on my temps.

[MMHinCA]

Here is my updated info.

WC Name: july26bride
Me: 27
DH: 29
Married since: 7/26/03
Off BCP since: 6/05
TTC since: 6/05
Charting since: 6/05
Known issues/test results: None
Chart: FF Chart
Current status: CD 14, waiting to O

Please help me link my chart!

Edited to add: http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1

[Baby Lust]

Thanks girls! I am hoping a month of SWH might be just what DH and I need! I am going to try an unmedicated cycle to see if I O, now that my body knows what it is like. :p :rolleyes: My temp is on the rise so I am going to try to squeeze a BD in tonite if DH cooperates. If not, whatever, I guess. :rolleyes:

UT, Sleep does have an effect on temps, but your temps may also be dipping right before O. Are you taking OPKs twice a day, or just once? You may have missed your surge. Have you been getting semi-dark lines, and just no + or are they still very negative?

MMH, I do have you on the roster, but I didn't have a link to your chart so I didn't know what category to put you in. Go to your chart on FF, click on "sharing", then "home page setup". Your chart link will be right at the top. HTH! :) ETA: The link you posted was the general link to update your chart. It just takes me to my chart. ;) Never mind! You got it! :cool:

[UTChick]

Thanks for your thoughts, ladies.

Baby Lust~
I am going to do the OPK again today...maybe in an hour. I want to wait the couple of hours after drinking a big bottle of water. I have only done the one OPK (late yesterday afternoon) and it was def. neg. Not even a faint line. The thing is, I don't think I missed my surge because if I did, then I will have an even shorter cycle this time. The OPK optimizer on FF said to start testing yesterday based on a 33 day cycle (my shortest so far) and my window goes until next week sometime based on a 38 day cycle (my longest so far). Oh well, we'll see what today's OPK says. BTW, should I be doing twice a day?

[Baby Lust]

Updated to here!

Dallas, So sorry about AF! :( {{{HUGS}}}

[Baby Lust]

UT, Then I don't think you missed your surge either. I would attribute the wacky temp to lack of sleep. :) You don't have to test 2x a day, but you have a better chance of seeing your surge if you do, and since you can O 36 hours after a +, you would want the most accurate time of your surge. Personal preference. I typically test once a day until I get a pretty good line, then I test twice a day until I get a positive or two. Good luck!

[missy329]

Well, I am afraid that I am out this month. AF found me this morning :( So, I am on to month #9. Please move me to waiting to O.

[Baby Lust]

Updated to here!

Sorry AF found you Missy! {{HUGS}}

[UTChick]

Ok...just did another OPK and this time there was a faint line, unlike yesterday when there was absolutely nothing. So looks like we are on the right track.

Thanks again to all of you who passed on the info. This is the first cycle I am using OPKs so it is a learning experience.

Missy~ Sorry about AF. She's popping up all over the place today. :(

[marteneym]

I don't think I will even attempt personal SO's after 12pages.
Sorry to those who AF found and good luck to those in the 2WW.
Welcome to the Newbies.
Babylust I hope your SWH cycle brings you relaxation and a BFP.
Gator Yay fo a new puppy. How fun. We have a chocolate and a yellow lab. So much fun. Good luck getting through the chewing stage. LOL!

After 50 some days I finally have an official O. AMAZING! Of course I was gone cmaping without my therm for the middle but I guess that makes the 2WW faster. I don't think our bd timing will bring the BFP but I am glad to know I o'ed on my own.
Threadmistress Please move me to I think I O'ed, testing 7/9


I will start FB next cycle again. Hope you all had a wonderful 4th.

I almost forgot...CONGRATS ELENITSA!

[babylove]

First of all, sorry to those found by AF :( ...and a hearty GOOD LUCK to those who are waiting to test. I did some chart stalking today and things look very promising 'round here!

***
It's official. I'm sick. I have some kind of strange summer cold--no runny nose or sneezing, just body aches, sore throat, clogged ears and I have completely lost my voice. :eek: Juuuuuust great. Thank god I don't have any hearings or trials this week! But I am concerned that my super high temp this morning (which I *of course* attributed to pgcy :rolleyes: ) is a function of a fever.For some reason, I have a feeling that this cycle was the one for us....topped off by the fact that my dear friend, who is also TTC, told me that she read "somewhere" that women sometimes get colds when pg b/c our bodies are working hard to implant, etc and our immune system is therefore suppressed....valid or not, I believe it!! :D

[Guinness]

Sorry to those visited by the 'witch' and all crossables crossed for those waiting to test. I have been chart stalking too and some look very promising!!

As for me, any advice is welcome. I think I O'd this past weekend, but only had one high temp. Today was disturbed and it isn't going to get back to normal because I have to wake up an hour and a half earlier for the next month. . . I didn't plan for the change. My CM I thought had dried up, but I am not so sure really. I feel like it is watery a lot - no real EWCM, but watery and lots of it. Any ideas? Maybe I'm still waiting to O? Just trying to talk DH into continuing to BD - he thought this is going to be great, but now I think he is having second thoughts . . . 'again, already' ;)

Hoping for some exciting news from someone soon!! March thread needs more mamas :)

[silentbunny]

Would you share your experiences?

After my initial visit talking to the doc about my crazy long cycles, etc, I brought up the possibility of PCOS. I don't have facial hair, per se, which is always brought up when I read about it, but I do have adult acne and have always had skin issues, quite badly at times (cystic). I also have skin tags, and the very irregular periods. My doctor didn't seem particularly to be leaning towards PCOS, but we did bloodwork (don't know the results yet) and I went for an ultrasound today.

Well, that was an experience...first, my doc didn't tell me that there was an internal component. That was s surprise. We were able to see several follicles, which at the time I thought was a good thing (I was not with the doc, BTW, just the U/S tech). I am thinking follicles=ovulation. However, her reaction led me to believe otherwise...she obviously didn't say I had or didn't have anything, but she tld me that"Well, there are plenty of ways to treat it if you do find out you have PCOS, and plenty of women get pregnant, so I hope I see you back here for something more exciting soon!"

So, I chewed on that all day, came home, and googled ovarian ultrasound images. And...My ovaries sure look like all the ones with PCOS.

BUT...I can't find a picture of a healthy ovary anywhere. :confused:

I know several of you on here have PCOS or some symptoms...can you share your experiences at all? Did you have an ultrasound? How about anyone with a healthy ultrasound?

On mine, I could clearly see several dark blobs on each ovary...about 12 all together is what the tech said, I think.

Help?

[ShannonGH]

silentbunny, unfortunately I don't have any info for you to answer your questions. But my best friend is an ultrasound tech and I'd be happy to ask her any questions for you. I can ask her if a healthy ovary usually has dark blobs on it. Any other questions you can think of I'd be happy to pass her way. Sorry you have to go through this. :(

[Baby Lust]

Updated to here!

Marteneyem, Yay for O'ing! :D

Silentbunny, I have not had the experience, but I know WC had a TTC w/PCOS thread that you may want to do a search for. I'm sure all the information you want and need is available in there. Hoping you don't have PCOS and you get good results soon! {{HUGS}}

Babylove, Yes, a cold is a PPS! Hoping this is it for you!

[silentbunny]

silentbunny, unfortunately I don't have any info for you to answer your questions. But my best friend is an ultrasound tech and I'd be happy to ask her any questions for you. I can ask her if a healthy ovary usually has dark blobs on it. Any other questions you can think of I'd be happy to pass her way. Sorry you have to go through this. :(

That's very sweet of you! Please don't go out of your way, but if you should happen to be lunching with her and, I don't know, the subject of "dark blobs on ovaries" comes up, I guess I am curious. ;) I suppose I will talk to my doc soon, though.

And I certainly don't want to be a drama queen if I DO have PCOS, I am certainly not the first person in here with it. I am just curious -- and impatient.

Babylust Yeah, I was thinking I should probably take it our of here and into another thread...everyone here is just so knowledgeable! I tried WC but the new search feature anoys me (as does nearly everything about the new WC, including KSA'a continued wailing...(Whoops! Did I say that out loud?))

:D

[jennylou]

Delurking to answer PCOS question.

silentbunny - Typically (though not all PCOSers share this trait) a PCOS ovary will have a string of pearls on their ovaries. I don't know how long you've been trying, but looking at your chart history, if last cycle is typical for you then you shouldn't have had follicles forming this early. Which leads me to believe that those blobs you were seeing were actually cysts. The good news is that you did ovulate last cycle, so even if you are officially diagnosed with PCOS you have something to work with.

[babylove]

silentbunny ~ I don't know much about PCOS, although I know several women who have it. If that is what you have, I know it can be treated. {{{{HUGS}}}}

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BabyLust ~ REALLY?! A cold is a pregnancy symptom?? Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle :D

Question about today's temp: I slept really poorly b/c of I feel terrible and had to get up around 4 to take some Tylenol. I took my temp around 6:20 and it was 97.99, (I was still half asleep), but then I fell back to sleep and took it again at 7 and it was 98.34. Which is correct?

[Tracie]

:D I got a BFP this morning!!!

[babylove]

CONGRATULATIONS TRACIE!!!!!!!! H&H 9 mo to you! :D

[LittleStar]

That's great news Tracie! H&H 9 months!!!!

Threadmistress, please move me to Think I O'd - Testing 7/17-7/24.

Although, I'm already feeling crampy and like AF is on her way. We'll see :rolleyes:

[UTChick]

I am so excited for you, Tracie!

babylove~ I wish I could help you out, but I am still trying to get the hang of this myself!


Ok...I need some good vibes sent my way so that I will hold off on O-ing until Saturday. I did another OPK this morning and while it is still neg, that line is a little darker than yesterday afternoon's. DH left to go out of town this morning and won't be back until Sat. afternoon. :( We did BD last night since he had to get up this morning at 3:45 to get to the airport on time. (I knew there was no action to be had at that hour. ;) ) But I have a feeling that this afternoon I will get a +OPK and we will miss the opportunity. UGH!! What do you all think? Oh and what is up with me and 97.2 temp this cycle!?! Weird.

[jennylou]

delurking again :p

utchick - If you BD'd last night and you O today or tomorrow, those spermies will stick around and could catch the egg. Sperm lives up to 5 (and I've even heard as late as 6) days in ideal, hospitable conditions.

Congrats to tracie while I'm here!

[Elenitsa]

Tracie CONGRATULATIONS!!! Happy and Healthy nine months to you!

Yeah! I have someone to join me in a March thread!

[Baby Lust]

Congrats Tracie!

Babylove, I would use the 6:20 temp because it was your "true" BBT. But you should definitely change the time on your chart. Sometimes OS will adjust it for you, but if it doesn't, at least you will know why it is screwey.

Hi Jenny! Great info! I knew someone was lurking out there who could help! :D

Temp is still on the rise... squeezed in a BD last night... come on eggie! I'm hoping it is taking forever because the 100mg is giving me a nice strong egg! :D

[Ryan]

silentbunny: I hope you get some answers soon... waiting is the worst torture.



Tracie CONGRATULATIONS!!! :D


As for me... I believe I am in the middle of O'ing... (fingers crossed).... DH and I have been BD'ing for the past few days... and let me tell you I am tired and worn out... and so is DH.... (My last cycle I thought I O'ed and we stopped BD and it turns out my temp did not go up for a few more days.. and we missed the boat....) So now we are on a mission until my temp goes up... ;)

Have a good day...

[UTChick]

Jenny~
Delurk anytime you want! I appreciate your thoughts on my situation. Who knows, maybe it will all come together. It just irritates me that off all the days in the month, DH *had* to be gone the 2 1/2 most opportune days for baby-making! Stupid jobs get in the way of everything!

[dlj78]

Congrats Tracie!!!

Nothing new here, just waiting to O. Hope to see some more BFPs soon! :D

[ShannonGH]

First and foremost Congrats to Tracie!!!

Silentbunny, this is the LONG response I got from my friend who is an ultrasound tech:
Most untrained people look at ultrasounds
and get more worried because they see things that look
funny, when in fact they are completely normal.
Several dark blobs can be both an indication of a
normal ovary or a PCOS ovary. There are many other
subtle factors that figure into a sonographic
diagnosis of PCOS, such as the location of the "blobs"
in relation to the ovarian parenchyma and the
presence, or lack thereof, of a dominant follicle.
Honestly, from my experience, unless she has had
periods of amenorrhea since she started her periods,
is overweight, and has slightly masculine features,
including a lot of hair, she probably doesn't have
PCOS. PCOS is primarily a clinical diagnosis that
doesn't require US diagnosis, unless it is just to
document confirmation.

Tell this girl that she is crazy to be worrying
herself to death over this and she should just be
patient until she hears from her doctor. I feel bad
for her because I know that is is very frustrating to
have infertility issues, but worrying about this will
only make things worse. As far as what the tech said
to her, I would take that to mean she will see her
back for something more exciting, like when she is
pregnant and they are looking at the baby. No good
tech would tell a patient they have PCOS, but I am
frequently talking to patients while doing EVs and if
one asked me questions about PCOS and fertility (which
this girl probably did) I would probably say something
similar to that.

Now that said, I don't believe you are "crazy" for worrying about this (as she stated)...I'm sure I'd be right there with you in this situation. My friend doensn't have any children and is no where remotely close to starting. I sometimes think she is a little insensitive when it comes to answering my questions just because she doesn't know the emotional investment we TTCers have in this whole journey. I know her response still doesn't give you the info you need at this point but I hope it at least sheds some light.

[gmb4503]

Congrats Tracie :)

[ds2003]

Threadmistress please move me to waiting to O

AF hasn't shown up yet, but I am 15 DPO and my hCG was negative today so she should be here momentarilly.

[jeeplover]

Congrats to Tracie with her BFP!

As for me I am still waiting to O! Tested with OPK's the past two days and got two negatives. I need to go buy some more though!

[ShannonGH]

Tonight at 8pm (central time) Discovery channel is airing "Conception to Birth"--great show if you haven't seen it! I'm having Dh watch it with me tonight. :)

[flygirl]

CONGRATULATIONS, TRACIE!!! :D

ds2003, I'm sorry you think that witch is on her way. :mad:

Guiness, I'm having the EXACT same problem you are!!!

Based on my CM I O'd Sun or Mon, but my temps have been all over the board. I've never had delayed O, and while my temps are usually pretty eratic, they've always shown a clear shift between pre-O and post-O. Under normal rules I could discard about 2/3rds of the temps, but that's usually the case with me, and I can still see an obvious O. This is driving me insane!

[Tracie]

Thanks for the congratulations everyone! :D

[ds2003]

Congrats Tracie

[aligirl]

Congratulations, Tracie!

[katmg]

Just wanted to say Congratulations to Tracie!!

I'm on CD 9. Just waiting to O. Yaaawwwnn.

[Baby Lust]

Updated to here!

DS, I'm so sorry about the BFN. :( But the up side is you O'd on your own! My first Clomid cycle I was so sad when AF came, but as my first cycle O'ing, I was pretty dang happy! :)

Shannon, I might have to check that out! :)

Hi Ali!

Flygirl, What's up with all the open circles? I think it is possible that you did O, but with all the uncertainties (read: open circles), it is hard to tell.

hbeshore, Here is an ovary shout for you! COME ON EGGIE!! WE ARE WAITING ON YOU!!!! HTH!


I am having some great EWCM today! Hopefully I can get another BD out of DH tonite. It'll be a late one! He doesn't get home until 1:00am! :eek: It will be worth it though! ;)

[Baby Lust]

Public Service Announcement:
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That is all. Proceed. :)

[Guinness]

flygirl It is very frustrating. I swear this morning CM was sticky and then around noon - suprise EWCM. Maybe I have delayed O - who knows, yours definitely looks similar. I am trying to remember to think about big picture - big picture. Ugh

Congrats to Tracie!! Stick around to spread baby dust :p

Hope everyone had a good day. It's almost FRIDAY :D

[UTChick]

Shannon~
Thanks for telling us about the show on Discovery. It was fascinating! My best friend just started her OB/GYN residency and a few weeks ago we talked for hours about the wonders of life and the development of a fetus. It just boggles my mind! DH is out of town and called me right in the middle of the show. Usually I want to talk and he hates talking on the phone, but tonight he wanted to tell me some story and I told him that I would have to call him back. :p

[Baby Lust]

Has anyone heard from Freckles? She was waiting to test in the last thread and didn't leave a link to her chart... If she is hiding a BFP from us, we will have to drag her butt back in here! :D

[MMHinCA]

We have the Discovery Channel ready to go on Tivo!

[flygirl]

Flygirl, What's up with all the open circles? I think it is possible that you did O, but with all the uncertainties (read: open circles), it is hard to tell.
I have no idea. I always get mostly open circles and I haven't been able to figure out why. Nor do I understand why I get closed circles when I do. I can temp at the normal time and not put anything in the "stats" section, and it'll still turn out open.

My real problem is that I have problems sleeping, and almost always end up dozing for the last few hours in the morning, which means I rarely get an undisturbed temp. When I do they're much lower. It also means I don't always temp at the same time, but this has ALWAYS been the case, and I've still had clear enough charts.

Good luck tonight!

[Baby Lust]

Fly, The open circles mean you temped at a different time than your default time, or you indicated you had a fever or something like that. Do you normally wake up before your 3 hours of dozing? Have you thought about making that your temping time? It is probably pretty early, and that might not be feasible, but just a thought. :)

[silentbunny]

I get such a chuckle out of reading about you guys jumping on your poor, overowrked husbands every 12 hours. :D

Congratulations, Katie!! What an exciting piece of news!

ShannonGH - Wow! Thanks! I didn't really expect you to ask her, so I am even more surprised by the thorough response! I will not take any offense to her thinking I am crazy...maybe I am, a little. And of course, I do have some of the other symptoms...but I am going to stop self-diagnosing. I think I am going to be able to see the doc tomorrow to go over bloodwork and Ultrasound results.

Ack. I can't scroll back up and read far back enough to see everyone that responded. So, thank you to everyone who did -- especially Jennylou. I definitely appreciate the wisdom.


Anyway. Still waiting to O.

[crazycaro]

Newbie!

WC Name: crazycaro
Me: Caroline/32
DH: Jason/33
Married since: 20 September 2003
Off BCP since: Wasn't on it
TTC since: April 2005
Charting since: 1 June 2005
Known issues/test results: I have a unicornuate uterus
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21ac6
Current status: think I am about to 'o'???

I am sooooooooo new to all this, I have TCOYF, and started charting last month, but I need guidance as I come to understand everything chart related.

I am not sure what is going on with my charts. Last month FF told me I ovulated on CD19, and had a 7 day LP. This month it is telling me I ovulated on CD8!!! I don't think so. I have ferning on a Maybe Baby today, and *just* noticed EW not long ago. OPK today was negative though. Going to cover the bases tonight and over the weekend!

I have a 14 month old, she was concieved on our second cycle, while on our honeymoon.

Happy to be here. :)

[tunibell]

Um, so....a line is a line is a line right?

I'm not saying I saw a line or anything. I'm just being, um, hypothetical.

See I have this friend, who, coincidentally enough, took two tests on DPO 11 and saw two very faint lines times two. I think I - I mean my friend - won't feel comfortable declaring anything concrete *if* or until that said line continues to darken on, for example, DPO 12, 13, and 14. (This friend, she loves to poas. Silly girl!) She wishes not to be reclassified as "pregnant" at this particular time (you know - 'cause of the jinx factor).

But, um, all crossables crossed okay?

[crazycaro]

A line is indeed a line!

Congrats to your friend! ;)

I POAS eight times, nine if you count at the doctors when pregnant with Ruby, so I say pee and test away!!! :p

[babylove]

Tunibell ~ Keeping all crossables crossed for your "friend"... ;)

crazycaro ~ Welcome!

***

Still have a high temp this morning....this chart looks nothing like my last chart, so I know that the high temps have nothing to do w/ the progesterone supps. My throat is KILLING me...hope I don't have strep....wouldn't it just be my luck to get sick and need an antibiotic at this very inopportune time?!

[ShannonGH]

Tuni, I hope your "friend" gets a new pair of Sevens! :D (Does that bet still stand with your- I'm mean- her Dh?)

crazycaro, welcome! Hope your stay here is short and sweet. Your DD is adorable!

Yay for those with EWCM! Now go forth and jump on thy husbands!

I'm at 6dpo with with only occasional lotiony CM as a FPS. Oh and I'm gassy :o but I think that's the stew I've eatten the past 2 days (with beans and cabbage in it). :rolleyes:

Edited to say that I'm glad everyone enjoyed the Discovery Channel show!

Edited one more time to say Tuni, with all the BDing you did, you deserve a BFP! Damn girl! We could barely sqeeze out 5 times in 1 week!

[Lizard]

Tuni - Congratulations to your "friend"!! :D

Caroline - Welcome!!! I haven't talked to you in forever!! :o

Threadmistress - can you move me to Think I O'ed - Testing 7/17 - 7/24 please?

I think that if we're not pregnant this cycle, I am going to make an appt. with my regular doctor about my pain. I posted another thread about my O pains, but in a nutshell they've been so bad that it's hampering our TTC timing. I get them the 2 days before O, and I can barely walk and BD'ing is not happening because it's so painful. I hope it's not cysts. :(

[Baby Lust]

Tuni, You should tell your friend to join this thread! :D I hope this is it for you..er...her. Maybe you can both be preggo together, because I was noticing your chart too! :p :eek:

Welcome Caro!

[Elenitsa]

Tuni, Crossing our crossables for your friend ;)


crazycaro- a BIG ol' WELCOME to you!


Dang it... I would have loved to see that discovery channel program last night, esp since DH has been complaining about this not really being real for him and how he don't actually know what is going on in there. Bad stroke of luck that we had the discovery channel up until yesterday, b/c that is when I cancelled our dish programming b/c we never watch it. Oh well. We do have the discovery health chan