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Emilie

11-18-2005, 04:04 AM

Anyone going to see HPatGoF? I am taking a half day from work and my girlfriend and I are going to play ladies who lunch and then hit the 2:30 showing. CAN'T WAIT!

If you saw it what did you think?

bellaprincess

11-18-2005, 07:15 AM

I can't wait to see this either! I really really want to go this afternoon!
Have fun!

sublime311

11-18-2005, 07:18 AM

We're going on Sunday. Can't wait!

MandyMaloo

11-18-2005, 07:29 AM

So glad I'm not the only one! :)

I'm heading out there today and again on Sunday (going with my parents...they think the books are great!)

jmvan74

11-18-2005, 07:39 AM

We're going next wednesday, when my parents will be here to babysit!:D I can't wait.

ivansbabe

11-18-2005, 09:42 AM

I'm going tonight and I'm seeing it at the IMAX, and again tomorrow with a group of people who couldn't see it tonight, LOL.

TX Sweetheart

11-18-2005, 11:10 AM

Saw it last night at the midnight showing. Aside from most of the people in the theatre being the most annoying people on earth, it was AMAZING!!

Michelle

11-18-2005, 11:12 AM

I'm going tonight and I'm seeing it at the IMAX.

Harry Potter at the Imax would be awesome! I'm going to have to do that one day. I wish I had thought of that when I got tickets for tonight. I'm just going to a regular theater downtown but it's all good. I can't wait to see it! :)

Thanks for letting us know it was amazing TXSweetheart! Now I'm really excited! :)

Emilie

11-18-2005, 03:37 PM

Okay, just got home from the movie - BY FAR the best of the 4! Spoilers below in white - just highlight the text and you will be able to read it.

I didn't like how they put Barty Crouch Jr in the room with wormtail and then had him send the dark mark. That was supposed to be the house elf who was missing. Dobby was completely missing too!

I wish they had done more detail at the World Cup and I wish I they had had the Sphinx. Other that those things, I LOVED this movie. Easily the best of the 4 IMO!

What did you guys think?

MandyMaloo

11-18-2005, 04:37 PM

ITA Emilie!

I thought it was the greatest of all the films, but I agree with what you said in your post. I wish they would've shown more detail, but it's so hard to adapt such a LONG book into a movie. Suprised to see there wasn't more of Malfoy in there, but I guess that's just how it worked out. I thought that "looks wize" it was AMAZING. The yule ball was beautiful! I can't wait to see the next movie! I've even got FH interested in reading the books!

We're going to be seeing it again this Sunday at IMAX with my parents. I can't wait to see it again...and I just got home!!! :)

October2002Bride

11-18-2005, 05:59 PM

Hi!

I work only half a day today and went to see Pride and Prejudice and then went to see HP. It was a long day and so happy I went by myself and had a ball!

A spolier:

Loved the movie although there were alot of thing missing especially the relationships between girls and boys but it was great!

Enjoy:)

gnatters

11-18-2005, 06:57 PM

I saw the Midnight IMAX showing here and LOVED it! I was on the edge of my seat during the graveyard scene and had to chuckle about how "they" fixed the Priori Incantum *sp* with Harry's Parents with having them both come out of the wand at the same time. I also loved how Neville got more of a role in this one. I'm going to to again, at some point, just to pick out the stuff I didn't see before.

~Natalie

bellaprincess

11-18-2005, 09:34 PM

I just got home from seeing this and agree with the other ladies who have seen it already! This was the best movie of the 4 and totally worth seeing! The special effects were incredible!

JillianS

11-19-2005, 01:40 AM

Saw it at the midnight showing on Thurs night. My first opinions...going again on Sunday :)

Well, better than the first three movies...(although that's not saying too much). Yet again, I'm going with the same opinion that if you've just seen the movies, you'll like it, but if you're a harry potter loyalist and have read the books once or several times like some crazy nerds I've uhm "heard" of.. might still be disappointed... Don't get me wrong, it was a lot better than the others, but there was still a LOT that was changed (did not like how they changed the whole Barty Jr thing..totally changes the whole thing, it made it dumb, the weasleys and potter were supposed to be in the top box with the malfoys for the world cup (which is where crouch steals Harry's wand so he can do the dark mark (it's not winky that does it, she's just found witht he wand after the invisible crouch is stunned), EVERYTHING they changed about barty jr and moody I didn't like. Harry looked like a crying wussy during the Voldy thing when he's supposed to be really strong and proud,what was UP with Harry's battle with the horntail?and the maze?? no challenges in the maze? ), a lot that was left out (where was Ludo Bagman? Where were the house elves? Didn't get to see the world cup, the whole barty killing his dad thing, a lot of the wizengammot (sp) trials were left out, it started quite a few chapters in, which meant no Dursleys, there was nothing about Percy in the Ministry (which turns into a big deal), no Fudge really, they didn't emphasize rita enough, and I just didn't get a big "omygod he's back" from dd and the others when Harry said it, we didn't learn how barty escaped from azkaban or why OR his history really,) didn't love some of the casting (moody, although he did crack me up a lot, he just didn't "fit" and I didn't like Voldemorts' voice..sounded weak, didn't evoke power or strength at all) There's a lot more that's different but am too zzz to think of it all...

It was good, don't get me wrong. I know the movies can NEVER be as good or complicated as the books, there's just no time. I know I'm being really picky, but 4 is my fave book..(I always tell everyone that the movies are like one tenth as complex and interesting and of the actual storyline of the books) and I did enjoy it and found some of the created scenes and stuff funny and I laughed, eventhough some of them were really unrealistic and out of character. but they seem to substitute extra action for the leftout complexity, but I know that's what they have to do. All in all, good movie apart from the books, keeps with the general idea of the book and don't get me wrong, I did enjoy it, will watch it again and again, this is just me being super critical

quest

11-19-2005, 05:59 AM

I'll have to come back and post more later, but I just wanted to say that while this was much better than the 3rd, I just can't wrap my arms around the new Dumbledore. Some of the things he did in the movie were just so out of character for the Dumbledore in the books (I think). I heart Dumbledore in the books and first 2 movies, but the 3rd and 4th movies? Not so much :(

ivansbabe

11-19-2005, 11:53 AM

I saw it last night and I really enjoyed it. I was one who loved the third movie so some of you may take my opinion with a grain of salt ;)
Of course I like the books better but it is so FUN to watch the basic story in the movies and I never ever expect the Directors to put in everything. What this Director left out IMO was a good choice. I really wasn't a fan of the house elf storyline to begin with so good riddance...Dobby and the rest are like the Jar Jar Binks of Harry Potter. I thought Daniel R. did a great job in this movie and I was glad they showed more of Ron too. So to me this was better than the first two and equally as good as the third.

Michelle

11-19-2005, 12:32 PM

I really enjoyed this movie. I thought overall they did a good job adapting the book into the movie because there was just so much in the book there is no way that everything will fit into a movie. At least by reading the book, I had a little more understanding of what was going on.

My only disappointment was that Percy was not in it at all. It should be interesting what they do with the next movie since he was not present in this one.

But overall, I was really impressed. I'm definitely going to see it again soon so I can take it all in again! :)

hockeybrat

11-20-2005, 10:29 AM

We saw it last night and it was really good but I echo JillianS's statements.

amyintn

11-20-2005, 11:51 AM

I agree completely with JillianS.

I also did not like this Dumbledore. Dumbledore is one of my favorite characters. He's incredibly wise and has an almost childlike innocence all at the same time. The Dumbledore in this movie was seemed serious all of the time. Plus, it seemed as the other 2 actors who've played him were able to capture that twinkle in his eyes. This guy just seemed, I don't know, uptight the whole film.

ivansbabe

11-20-2005, 01:18 PM

My friend said the same thing about Dumbledore, but I disagree. I don't know...I like Dumbledore but he isn't one of my favorite characters so I guess I don't feel the same way about him as some people do. I think the Director used this character as a tool to show how the adults of the wizarding world are becoming more concerned with what is going on beyond the school. Maybe it's because after reading book 6 recently I just don't picture Dumbledore with a twinkle in his eye.

silentbunny

11-20-2005, 05:46 PM

Plus, it seemed as the other 2 actors who've played him were able to capture that twinkle in his eyes. This guy just seemed, I don't know, uptight the whole film.

??? Unless I am very confused. this is the same actor as the third film, Michael Gambon. Only two actors have played Dumbledore, him and Richard Harris (1 & 2)....who was soooo wonderful. I agree, Gambon doesn't do it for me. I was okay with him last film, but this one he just seemed abrupt and less...deep.

TracieB

11-20-2005, 07:16 PM

I liked it but felt like the end was way rushed. It was almost like they were out of time and had to end it pronto. I guess they have to same some mysteries for the next one, but sheesh, they could've slowed it down a bit.

sublime311

11-20-2005, 09:07 PM

I liked it but felt like the end was way rushed. It was almost like they were out of time andd had to end it pronto. I guess they have to same some mysteries for the next one, but sheesh, they could've slowed it down a bit.
This is exactly how I felt! It was so abrupt!! The rest was excellent!

MichelleRenee

11-21-2005, 05:33 AM

I loved it. I really did. I was so disappointed with HP3 and all the things they left out. I really thought that director did a bad job.

I read HPatGOF a couple years ago and haven't read it since. I think this made the movie better for me because I have forgotten a lot of the details that were left out anyways.

I've read a lot of articles about the difficulty of turning such long books into movies. I think they've done a good job so far.

What I thought:

The fight between Ron and Harry really tore at my heart. I think they portrayed it very well. Rupert Grint has the best facial expressions and body language.

The Yule Ball was amazing. Hermione is so beautiful! I loved the line where she says that next time Ron should just have the guts to ask her himself before someone else does and not as a last resort.

The whole battle between Harry and Voldemort and when Harry returns with Cedric's body made me cry. I like how Harry seemed scared when facing Voldemort.

I could say a million more things, but I'm out of time. The movie was just fantastic and I can't wait for OotP.

Mrs-Mac

11-21-2005, 05:53 AM

I saw is Saturday night. I really enjoyed it. And am I the only one who is thinks Harry Potter is getting pretty darn cute!! :)

I made a point of re-reading the both before the movie came out. It had been so long, I forgot most of it. My thoughts....

Everyone is right, yes a lot was left out of it. Some things I understood, other things I was a little more disappointed it. I was totally fine without the whole SPEW thing. Or the beginning with the Dursleys (I get annoyed having to read the backstory in the first few chapters of every book). I understood the changes to the whole Barty Jr thing, but I agree, the story in the book is just so much more rich. You just don't expect it to be Barty Jr because he "died" in prison. Plus, Barty Sr is acting all weird, and Harry sees him in Snape's office when he has the Maurder's Map. Details like that.

Before we went, my DH pointed out that it seems like they keep changing directors. So they don't really try to link them together. They are more like stand-alone types of films. I think this one was so like that. At the end of the book, there is a lot of discussion about Voldermorte's return and what everyone needs to do (Hargrid goes to the Giants, Snape does his job, Sirus is actually there, and so on). They really build it up for the next book. I think leaving Percy out of this book completely is another example of this. I just find it interesting and wonderful if the movies will ever have a disconnect because of this.

quest

11-21-2005, 11:46 AM

I have a really dumb question. Since the title of this thread is now marked 'spoilers', do we still need to "hide" our comments about the movie in another color?

Heidi

11-21-2005, 12:49 PM

I couldn't agree more with JillianS. I liked it, but I always come out of the theatre feeling disappointed when I see these movies.

A few more of my opinions to add:
• I hated that they left out so much of the World Cup, but I just loved that part of the book, and hoped we would see the game!
• I know this was a small detail, and at first I thought they would hit on it when Hermione was reading the articles in the Daily Prophet, but they never outed Rita Skeeter as the bug (I think it was a ladybug?)

So disappointed, but I agree it is a good movie for those who haven't read the books.
This makes me want to go read the book for the 50th time to catch all of those small details I missed!

Heidi

11-21-2005, 12:52 PM

Ok, sorry if I spoil anything in my last post - but I can't get my type to turn white. How are you doing it?

Ugh, now I can't even edit my post!

SOOOORRRRYYY!!!!!

LooLoo02

11-21-2005, 12:53 PM

I know this was a small detail, and at first I thought they would hit on it when Hermione was reading the articles in the Daily Prophet, but they never outed Rita Skeeter as the bug (I think it was a ladybug?)

That annoyed me as well! Completely! why introduce her if you are not going to tell the whole story you know???? And it also bothered me that Harry didn't give the money to the Weasleys to open their joke shop - I mean that's why they are able to leave Hogwarts early at the end of book 6. How long would that have taken?

Otherwise loved the movie!

Emilie

11-21-2005, 01:00 PM

Heidi

11-21-2005, 01:01 PM

That annoyed me as well! Completely! why introduce her if you are not going to tell the whole story you know????

exactly! They presented a horribly annoying character to us, so I was waiting and waiting for Hermione to give her what she deserved, and it never happened!

So unsettling!

sparkle&shine

11-21-2005, 01:25 PM

LooLoo - I totally forgot that there was prize money as well as "eternal glory" Good point, I wonder how they will fix that one in the next movie?

I agree with those who don't like this Dumbledore as much as the original - he was simply perfect and fit the role to a T.

They kind of left the whole prize thing up in the air I figure they can easily work in that there was money involved in the next movie.

This Dumbledore (Michael Gambon) was the same as in the last movie Prisoner of Azkaban. I do agree that he wasn't as good as Richard Harris was.

I really liked the movie though. I am sure it was hard to edit such a long book into a movie and try to get as much info in it as possible.

Amuse Bouche

11-21-2005, 01:29 PM

I should preface this by saying I loved the third one -- easily my favorite of the four movies. My issue with this movie is that although I realize they had to cut it extensively, they cut out almost EVERYTHING that wasn't dark and scary (like SPEW, and the house elves, and the fun of the World Cup instead of just the scary bits and most of the Rita Skeeter plotline) and left in lots of action sequences that were very dark and scary, so the overall tone of the movie is very dark indeed. Since the books get progressively darker as Voldemort gains more power, IMO, this movie seemed like a bit of a departure, and there aren't a whole lot of places the next movies can go in terms of tone.

quest

11-21-2005, 02:04 PM

So I've already said that I can't warm up to this Dumbledore. I didn't like him in PoA, but thought maybe he'd be better here, but I actually think he was worse. First of all...charging at Harry and grabbing him and demanding to know if he had put his name in the goblet? Dumbledore wouldn't do that.

And what about him pronouncing it VoldemorT, with a hard T? I guess I base my pronunciations on the audio books (yes, I've read AND listened to them ;)) and they don't use a hard T. And Beauxbaton (sp?)? This Dumbledore said it like Bow-Battin' and it drove me nuts.

One scene I got misty at was when Hermione came down the steps at the ball. Even though it wasn't as dramatic as in the book (the character in the movies was always cute...never had frizzy hair or buck teeth :(), I thought it was so sweet!

Does anyone remember that part in the book when Harry is telling Dumbledore what happened in the graveyard, and he says how V used Harry's blood to help him come back, and it said something like Harry "thought he saw a look of triumph on Dumbledore's face"? I thought they were going to address it when Dumbledore screamed at Harry "Let me see your arm!" but that seemed unrelated. Anyone have a good theory on what that means (if anything)? I thought I remembered something in one of the last 2 books about it, but now I'm drawing a blank.

kdotp

11-21-2005, 03:46 PM

DH and I saw it last night. I'm horrible at critiquing movies, if it kept me entertained, I usually like them. So I liked this one. It'd been a while since I'd read GoF, so I didn't notice all the things that were missing. I think the writers/directors did a good job of getting the really main points in the story. Yes, it would have been nice to get some of those side stories like SPEW, but they aren't really essential to the main storyline of Harry and the TWT and Voldemort.

I don't like Michael Gambon as well as Richard Harris as Dumbledore, either, but I don't think he's completely horrible. The books do get darker and more intense as the series goes on, and we're going to see a lot of that reflected in the characters in the movies, especially Dumbledore. He is the most powerful wizard in the wizarding world, so he's not always going to be the kind and gentle headmaster we saw in the first two movies.

I also think some of the stuff that was left out at the end of this movie will be used in the beginning of the next.

ivansbabe

11-21-2005, 04:05 PM

When I saw this thread in my User CP it said that there were only 8 replies....weird.

amyintn

11-21-2005, 04:18 PM

My bad about the actors playing Dumbledore. I thought there had been 2 previous ones but I'm probably wrong.

About Rita Skeeter, I don't think she gets outed as a ladybug until OofP when Hermione blackmails her into telling the truth about Voldemort when no one else is believing him. I could be wrong about that as well. They all run together in my mind.

Lauren

11-21-2005, 04:25 PM

I *loved* this movie -- it was definitely my favorite so far. They finally managed to capture the magic without making it too cheesy or cutting out things that were important to the plot. Don't get me wrong, they cut a lot out, but I thought they tied up the loose ends rather well.

The beginning definitely seemed rushed, as did the end, and I wish they could have done a better job of conveying the enormity of You Know Who returning -- they barely even talked about it. The scene after they returned from the graveyard was incredible -- they haven't conveyed that level of emotion before in any of the movies.

I like Michael Gambon as Dumbledore, but I do think he should have been more grandfatherly and less harsh in some of the scenes.

Heidi

11-22-2005, 07:51 AM

About Rita Skeeter, I don't think she gets outed as a ladybug until OofP when Hermione blackmails her into telling the truth about Voldemort when no one else is believing him. I could be wrong about that as well. They all run together in my mind.

You could be right, my memory is vague on this right now, but I rememebr her discovering Rita as a bug (I think it is after the Yule ball), and then at the end of the book telling Harry that those headlines and stories would not be a problem anymore and showing him Rita in a glass, but maybe I am blending two books together! I really should reread this one!

meganth

11-22-2005, 08:40 AM

I really enjoyed the movie, although it left me feeling a little empty and depressed at the end.

I'm a huge fan of the books, but after LOTR, i learned my lesson about seperating the books from the movies. You just can't put everything into the movie. And from what i understand, JKR has a huge amount of input as to what gets put in and what's left out. She's making sure the important things are in.

cocoa_femme

11-22-2005, 10:29 AM

I saw it this weekend and loved it! But, why didn't Harry tell anyone that Lucius Malfoy was in the graveyard (as a servant of Voldemort)?

P.S., did anyone else notice that Ralph Fiennes was the guy playing Lord Voldemort?

hockeybrat

11-22-2005, 11:06 AM

cocoa_femme

11-22-2005, 12:16 PM

In the book he does but they didn't mention it in the movie.
Thanks! I haven't read any of the books :o. But, maybe that's better for me...since I loved the movies and wouldn't want to be dissapointed that they weren't more true to the books :).

Michelle

11-22-2005, 12:38 PM

P.S., did anyone else notice that Ralph Fiennes was the guy playing Lord Voldemort?

I had no idea it was Ralph Fiennes who was playing Voldemort until I read it on the internet after I saw the movie. Now I'll know the next time I go see the movie and I'll pay close attention to him!

amyintn

11-22-2005, 02:37 PM

Lauren

11-22-2005, 05:14 PM

I was thinking today about the Rita Skeeter/bug thing and realized that H does realize she's a bug in this movie. However, she uses it to get her to write that story in OoftheP. So, that does seem kind of important, wonder why they left it out??

Eh... I don't really think it's central to the plot. They can just have her write the story about Harry in OOTP for some other reason -- b/c it's sensationalistic or a scoop, not just b/c she's being blackmailed.

There are just *so* many subplots in the books that they can't keep all of them, or the movies would all end up 10 hours long. ;)

jenahdawn

11-23-2005, 07:16 AM

Think about books 5 and 6, though. Michael Gambon will be good at playing distant and cold.

Maybe they could have shortened the dragon battle, the bathtub scene, and a few others to add things that were taken out.

Although I don't miss SPEW at all!

And I loved Snape cracking them upside the head!

dh5678

11-23-2005, 05:34 PM

Was anyone else hoping they would show the Veela? :p Overall, I liked the movie, but I like the book more.

Angelfish

11-24-2005, 07:11 PM

I also liked the way that everything was simplified for the movie. I didn't miss the SPEW at all, and I didn't notice many of the other omissions because it has been so long since I have read the book. I did wish that they explained out Barty Jr. had escaped Azkaban, and I told my DH, who hasn't read the book, but he didn't think it was strange that he escaped an unescapable prison because Sirius did it in the last movie.

I loved the ball scene. I wish the relationships had been allowed to develop deeper.

I thought that the bath scene with Moaning Mirtle was creepy. Is it just me, or did she seem way too old for Harry?

Unfortunately, I thought Fleur came off as useless and whiny, and she did not inspire the awe that she did in the book.

I felt that Dumble dore was "off" this movie, although I didn't have a problem with him in the last movie.

This was my favourite of the four movies. Anything that was left out that is important to the next movie will be explained in the next movie.

jaeger

11-25-2005, 06:52 PM

After reading the book and watching the movie, I noticed how much they had to cut due to time restraints. I'm glad I read the book first because it filled me in on things I would have been unclear about through the movie.

Phen

11-25-2005, 08:54 PM

Southlooper

11-27-2005, 12:15 PM

All in all, I didn't mind the stuff from the books that was left out of the movie, except my DH (who didn't read the book) was confused as to how Barty Crouch Jr. escaped from Azkaban without anyone noticing.

I'm already looking forward to the next HP movie!

~ Phen

My DH, who also didn't read the book, was wondering the same.

I think this one was the best out of all of them. I still think that Ron is played too goofy, Hermione is too high strung, and Dumbledore was either played too old (Harris) or too uptight (the new guy.)

bookworm

11-27-2005, 12:46 PM

I saw it Friday, and thought it was...eh, fine. There was too much yelling (I agree with the poster who mentioned Hermione is played as high-strung). It seemed like they took out all of the fun stuff (except some of the dancing).

Avalon

11-27-2005, 01:10 PM

Was anyone else hoping they would show the Veela? :p

Yes! Although the "You know how I like it when they walk" quote from Ron was amusing, I wish the movie had explained that part of Fleur Delacor's attraction is that she had Veela heritage. Especially since I didn't find the actress playing Fleur to be that pretty (unlike the actress playing Cho Chang who was stunning!)

I choose to look at the books and the movies as separate entities. I enjoy them both, but I enjoy the books more.

tlew12778

11-28-2005, 03:44 AM

OK I just saw this movie on Saturday bc it opened up in Italy on Friday.

Horror of all horrors for all HP fans, right when DD stuck his wand in BC Jr's throat and was about to interrogate him using the veritaserum, the film MELTED. Literally. It cut off and the whole theatre saw the actual flim MELT on screen.

The restored it about 10 mins later but we missed a crucial 45 seconds (according to the manager of the theatre on whom I went ballistic when I got out of the theatre). So now FH, who does not read the books, does not understand the who, when, how and why of the whole story.

That said --

I agree with everything that JillianS wrote.

In terms of the book-to-screen adaptation, I am really disappointed in the lack of explanation/development of the whole Crouch, Jr storyline. I felt like the true story was hard to understand if you have never read the book.

I feel like they left out a lot of the character growth of both Ron and Hermione. I can deal with SPEW being left out, but I think they writers could have elaborated more on the boy-girl relationship stuff and the jealousy issues btwn R & H esp. as it becomes more significant in the next 2 books. OTOH, I liked how Neville actually played a larger role in the 2nd task, even though he failed in that specific function in the book.

I think the whole Voldy scene was poorly adapted. They did not explain why the golden cage forms or why the priori incantatum happened. They left out the importance of the blood sharing. HP just seemed like a wimp here and he's not supposed to be.

Also, I don't know if this was in the 45 seconds I missed, but they don't really explain the polyjuice potion. You've got to remember how it works from book 2. Likewise they don't explain away why BCJ is always sipping from his flask. In the book it's bc Moody doesn't trust food or drink prepared by anyone other than him.

Why did they leave out the jokes that the twins are creating? This is important in book 6 since they open up the shop with the prize money that is non-existent in the movie. How are the movie makers going to explain their grand exit in book 5?

Little things that annoyed me --

I don't understand why they changed the horntail scene. In the book, the task really focuses on Harry's flying ability and his strength as a gifted seeker. I didn't get that from the film.

I wish they had included the Veela. It would have explained the scene where Ron asks Fleur to the ball. Why does only Ireland have mascots in the movie? Overall I wish there had been more of the world cup.

I hated that whole dance-entrance thing with the students from Beaubatons and Durmstrang. WTF was that? The Durmstrang kids seem like nazis (esp. the clicking of the heels when Krum meets Hermione for the ball). I didn't get that impression from the book (I imagined them more like the Slytherin kids), but I suppose it works. I imagined Krum to be more lanky and "duck-footed" as in the book.

DD NEVER yells at HP. I didn't like how he bellowed out HP's name in anger when it came out of the cup.

No tasks inside the maze? WTH? And that maze was HUGE! HP totally needed that compass spell that Hermione teaches him in the book. Oh and was that venimous tentacula that grabbed first Fleur then Cedric? The spell to get rid of that is not the reducto spell but one that creates sunlight (i forgot what the spell is called).

I went home with the desire to read book 4 again just to get over all the inconsistencies in the movie.

JamBray

11-29-2005, 08:25 AM

DH and I saw this last night, and while it was very well made, it left me feeling a little "empty". I just felt like many of the scenes were rushed so that they could cram it all in, and I was disappointed with how much stuff (crucial stuff at that) was left out:

~The whole reason for Harry being at the Weasly's in the first place, and the build up to the World Cup
~The fact that they were all supposed to be in the top box with the Malfoys, and the entire storyline of Winky which is supposed to throw suspicision on Barty Crouch. I would have liked to have seen more of the World Cup, and was surprised they didn't show the Veela, or the Death Eaters messing around with the Muggles.
~They should have showed Harry resisting the Imperious (?) Curse in the classroom since that played an important role in him battling Voldemort in the end.
~No explanation as to why Viktor did what he did in the maze, and I was really bummed that they put absolutely no challenges in the maze, as I was really looking forward to seeing the Sphinx.
~Why did they make DD so mean in this one? It seemed like he was yelling so much of the time, and was just all around pissed off.
~What happened to Harry giving the twins his money at the end so that they could start their joke shop (that they were supposed to have been talking about in the beginning?)? Even DH, who hasn't read the books, thought the ending was too abrupt.

I actually did read some of the book when I got home just to fill in the gaps that they movie left me with. All around I did enjoy the film, but actually liked the first three better in terms of the story. This film was better for me visually though.

Jenessa

12-03-2005, 06:02 PM

I totally agree with everyone who thought that HP4, the movie was rushed and that for the viewers who haven't read the books, they would probably be confused. I love HP in general, but I was a little disappointed that they had to cut out some many good stuff. For example, when the four students had to perform the first stunt with the dragons, I was hoping that they would show all of the students performing their magic. Instead, they cut right to Harry's turn. I know that if they added a lot more stuff, the movie would be really really long, but I totally wouldn't mind! :)