Direct Sales Consultants

[KRM&TPS]

This was a thread I recently became interested in over at WC. Anyway I recently became a direct sales consultant with Clever Kingdom. We sell cute cotton clothes for babies, children, women, and just recently men. I love it so far. But since I just started I would love advice on what works for other consultants in their businesses. Hope this interests someone.

[kmmommy]

I'm not a consultant right now, but have been considering it to make some extra $$. I'll follow along and maybe learn something.

[KRM&TPS]

Hi Kelly- I just saw your post. Im sorry. I absolutely love what I do. It is a great way to make some extra money. Which ever company you pick. I was hoping to get some other consultants from different companies on here. I had just found this thread on WC like a few weeks ago and was looking forward to talking with other consultants. Maybe some people will drop by.

[kmmommy]

I'm sure as more people migrate and explore the boards they'll join. I've just gotten into selling on ebay and realized how nice it is to make the extra money.

I know of some WC'ers that are scrapbooking consultants - I'm sure they'll be here!

Thanks for starting the thread.

[jeeplover]

I am not a consultant but I am considering it once we start having kids. I hope that others join this thread so that I can learn more about what it takes.

[devil_kitty_1]

I do Pampered Chef and Avon. I thought about Clever Kingdom as well! Right now I don't have the time (2 kids and a third on the way) but its still in the back of my mind. How much is it to get started with CK?

[udsweetpea]

I've been thinking of doing Southern Living at Home, but I'm not sure how it will do in Central Florida. It's only $199 for the start-up kit, which I don't think is bad at all to start up my own business.

[KRM&TPS]

I do Pampered Chef and Avon. I thought about Clever Kingdom as well! Right now I don't have the time (2 kids and a third on the way) but its still in the back of my mind. How much is it to get started with CK?

I thought about doing both of those but we have so many of those here already. So with CK I am the only one here so far. I bet you are busy and congratulations!. It is $125 for the miniclothing and trainig package - 20 clothing items. And $198 for the deluxe sample collection- 30 clothing iems. Which I did not think was that bad. I got the mini sample. And then you can always add more because you get a great discount. Its a great way to outfit your children.

[KRM&TPS]

I've been thinking of doing Southern Living at Home, but I'm not sure how it will do in Central Florida. It's only $199 for the start-up kit, which I don't think is bad at all to start up my own business.

Oh I love Southern Living at Home. They have the nicest things. I dont think $199 is bad at all. Thats pretty good.

[Lydia]

I do AVON!

[jeeplover]

Lydia, I didn't realize you did Avon. Do you find it lucrative?

[KRM&TPS]

Im so glad we have some more people. Welcome everyone. I just thought we could share ideas here and whatever else.

[Aug2002Bride]

I also was following along with this board on WC! I sell Pampered Chef also and At Home America.

I would love to get ideas on how you get new parties booked! Obviously from other parties but what other ways have you been successful with?

[udsweetpea]

How did you girls first start your businesses? Who did you invite to your first party? I'm being invited to a Southern Living at Home party by a local consultant, and I want to start up my own SLAH business, but I have no idea who to invite to my first party because most of my friends work on most nights and my family all lives 1000 miles away. Should I just post a flier in the mail room at my apartment complex? Also, I want to invite the ladies at work, but I'm not sure if I'll get in trouble by management (conflict of interest.. blah blah blah). So, how did you all get started and on your feet? Do you have parties often?

[excitedbride]

I sell Mary Kay. I have actually been in it for 5 years, but just for personal use. Now I am wanting to make some money. My director said to have a party and just invite everyone. It is a party celebrating your new buisness. She is going to do the skin care class and I just watch. This will be so I know how to do it. I am hoping and part of the point is to book a bunch of classes. And I hope to keep booking from the parties.

[Aug2002Bride]

Pampered Chef Gals...

I saw the Fall stuff tonight at my cluster meeting! Have you seen it?

Some things Im excited about but some arent so great either....Im not sure of the new simple additions line...I guess I havent really gotten into any of that line so maybe thats why! I dont know about the new stoneware piece either....What is it for? Im sure all stoneware lovers will go for it though! I love the new woven selections and the new cookbook. Its about time we got a new cookbook!

[tgray99]

I've been thinking of doing Southern Living at Home, but I'm not sure how it will do in Central Florida. It's only $199 for the start-up kit, which I don't think is bad at all to start up my own business.

I did SLAH and while it was nice to get the start-up kit and all of the stuff for so cheap, the merchandise is on the expensive side so if you don't have friends or know people that can afford it, it makes it REALLY hard to do. I wound up giving it up because it cost me more money than I made.

I'm thinking about doing something like scrapbook consultant (other than Creative Memories, no offense to anyone, I just don't like the style) or something like that. Something that SAHMs and people just starting out can afford instead of $200 fireplace screens. I do still LOVE SLAH stuff.

PS. If you decide that you do want to do SLAH, don't let your area deter you. A few of the highest selling states for SLAH stuff are what I would consider "Yankee" states. ;)

[Aug2002Bride]

I like the SLAH stuff as well and thought about doing that but it is on the expensive side and just didnt know how well I would be able to sell it. I then thought about toys but wanted something I could sell to pretty much anyone...so thats why I went with Pampered Chef...some stuff is a little pricey I think, but I also have found that people are very receptive to PC and love the stuff..and theres something for every budget. I also did it because I figured how hard can a party be...just show up and make a recipe using our stuff....it seemed much easier than say trying to show someone how to decorate different ways with items.

Does anyone here sell Lia Sophia jewelry?

Also whoever sells SLAH, I would love to see a current catalog! I havent seen one since I stopped working after having DD!

[tgray99]

Try their website www.southernlivingathome.com I think they have a consultant locator there.

[lmg159]

Hi all! I'm a Discovery Toys consultant. I haven't been doing much with it lately, since budget got real tight before I got it off the ground, and I wasn't able to keep stocking my kit with the latest catalogs and demo items.

Are all DS companies like that? Do you pay a lot for your catalogs and do they change them often? I mean, ours aren't expensive at all, but it just seems like there is always a new sales flier or catalog I have to buy and then if I don't get a party, I'm stuck with them :p

[Aug2002Bride]

Pampered Chef has two catalogs..one in the fall and one in the spring.
We have monthly specials but I usually just print them out as I need them. I was making copies to save on printer ink but was wasting alot doing that too...so now I just print them as I need them.

I usually just leave my old catalogs all over the place. I know its harder if there are certain months assigned to specials etc but I guess you could still just leave them to get your name out there.

[Carissa]

Hi all I am an Arbonne consultant. We sell Cosmetics, skin care, aromatherapy and a lot more. All our products are made with natural resources. I have been doing it since April and really love it. It didn't cost me a lot to start up. $29 and then a $100 retail order which ends up being only $65 with the consultant discount. I have a 9 week old at home so I haven't been working full time on it but am starting to work a little more. I have a website which really works well, parties are nice but there are a lot more ways to sell our products. I am glad I found this thread.

[jaredsgirl]

Hi all! I sell Silpada, it is all Sterling Silver jewelry. I'm trying to step up the business so I eventually can be a SAHM and just got back from our conference and am really excited to get it all moving again (took a couple months off due to m/s and exhusting from pregnancy).

[Aug2002Bride]

Has anyone sold Lia Sophia or know about it?

[EmilyZA]

I want to subscribe... I think about doing this from time to time (have done so in the past) so figured I'd read more about it.

I was a Creative Memories consultant in the past.

[Aug2002Bride]

Welcome!!!!

I thought about doing Creative Memories since I spend so much money at the scrapbook store!!! Why did you get out of it? Any cons with CM?

[KRM&TPS]

I finally got my samples for clever kingdom. They are so cute in person. I mean they look cute in the catalog but so much cuter in person. I am very excited. Now I just need to have my grand opening party. I also have an opportunity to donate some things for a silent auction. I think this will be a great way to get my name out there. Has anyone donated something before for an auction or something like it?

I am so glad everyone has subscribed. I think it will be great to be able to share what works. By the way was anyone nervous nefore they had their first party?

[EmilyZA]

I thought about doing Creative Memories since I spend so much money at the scrapbook store!!! Why did you get out of it? Any cons with CM?

There were a few reasons... the Consultant I signed up under was pretty new to it too, and wasn't very supportive/didn't keep in contact with me much (she ended up quitting a few months prior to me quitting.) I also felt that it was hard to keep up with the minimums you needed to get, I forget what it was but it was tough for me. I also felt that when I was doing it (I was probably 23 at the time) a lot of my friends weren't scrapping so it was hard to book parties.

I am a pretty outgoing person but felt it was hard to book parties, etc. My husband's cousin's girlfriend does Mary Kay and loves it, and is always trying to convince me to do it but I always tell her no. I think my first experience (with direct sales) left a bad taste in my mouth. I am just curious about all the different opportunities out there because I would love to be a SAHM someday and our current financial situation wouldn't allow it (we don't have kids yet anyway.)

[Aug2002Bride]

I havent donated anything to an auction yet! So cant give you any advice on that!

My first party I was so nervous!!! I was soooo hot that I asked to open the window behind my table (March) and my cheeks were bright red!!! I kinda found myself stumbling on my words when I was doing my demo also! And then I kept noticing these two girls leaning over whispering in each others ears while watching me, which just made it all worse...and then I asked a question about half way through and the same whispering girl answers " Yeah I have it, I use to be a consultant"!!! So then that just made me even more nervous! It was awful but I got through it and made about $250 bucks in 3 hours! So I just kept focusing on that at my next few parties which went smoother. I still get nervous sometimes but I just get through it as best as I can!

[Aug2002Bride]

Emily

I started direct sales with At Home America and my recruiter was the same way. She is still not supportive at all, I never hear from her, basically I signed up with her and they sent me everything and there wasnt even a video or anything to watch someone do a party....So i really had no idea how to even go about doing a show. It wasnt great and Im slowly getting out of AHA. I dont think Im active anymore in order to receive mailings and stuff but I think I wont totally go inactive until a year.

So then I signed up with Pampered Chef because Ive always loved everything they sell, and I felt like it was easier to sell to people because they had heard of it, whereas AHA isnt that well known. My director is AWESOME! I absolutely love her and she calls me at least once a week, we have lunch together every couple weeks or so and shes just so much the opposite of my first experience with a director. So Pampered Chef has been good for me and Im glad I finally decided to give D.Sales another chance. I mostly do catalog shows right now because of my little one, but will get into the parties more later on. They definitely make me more money than catalog shows. One of my good parties I made $250 in about 3 hours of work! That was so motivating to keep up and work at it. I would say it definitely is what you make of it and what you put into it. The bookings just dont come to me and I have to work hard to get them but its worth it. I stay home with my daughter so it gives me some extra spending money to do what I want with!

[EmilyZA]

So then I signed up with Pampered Chef because Ive always loved everything they sell, and I felt like it was easier to sell to people because they had heard of it, whereas AHA isnt that well known.
Thanks for your input!

Does PC have sales minimums?

[Aug2002Bride]

Yeah its $200 every 2 months. I find its pretty easy to keep up with...there was one month I begged my friend to have a catalog show for me but other than that just peoples individual orders carry me through even with no shows. Im glad those count!!

[EmilyZA]

I thought about doing Creative Memories since I spend so much money at the scrapbook store!!! Why did you get out of it? Any cons with CM?
Another thing I thought of that I didn't mention before: the fact that you had to sell a lot before you were listed on their website as a consultant. I think I made it on there one month... but it was tough b/c starting out, I think that new consultants would appreciate that as some extra help.

[excitedbride]

Marykay I think is the easiest Direct Sales company to be in. Your discount is 50%, you only have to purchase $200 wholesale a year to stay in the company. You can be in it for just personal use, it is the only company I know if that is like that.

[KRM&TPS]

August2002bride- Thank you so much for you input. I am sure I will be the same way. I have a bad habit of thinking that people are talking about me anyway. But I must get over that.


I love clever kingdom. We get 40% off , there are two different packages to start up with depending on how much initial investment you want to make, and there is no purchase or selling minimum at all. Its your business and you run it how you see fit. I personally love that.

[Carissa]

One thing that attracted me to Arbonne was not only do they have great products there are many different ways to sell other than the "party". Plus they have a low start up cost, no sales minimum to make each month to remain active. I love it!

[Etoile]

I'm a Tupperware Lady!

It's nice to see a bunch of other direct sales consultants here. My first month was great, because of my grand opening party, I'm in my second month now and am looking for tips on getting leads etc...

www.lemonaidlady.com and www.thebooster.com has good tips for getting leads once you run out of friends and family...

Any innovative ideas from anyone?

[Candy]

I just bought my kits to sell Arbonne. I love the products! I'm having second thoughts about selling it though

[kmmommy]

Candy ~ What's Arbonne?

[Carissa]

Candy Why are you having second thoughts? I sell Arbonne just started in April and love it! PM me if you would like, I'd love to chat with you.

Kaeden's Mommy Arbonne is a company that sales botancially based skin care, color, weight loss, armoatherapy, and nurtrition products. We also have an awesome baby line. You can check out my ad in my siggy.

[jeeplover]

How much does it cost to start selling Arbonne?

[ButterflyJen]

I just signed up today to sell Avon. I'm nervous about starting off, but we need the $$ and this was the only one I could think of that didn't have home parties (tried that in the past, sucked at it, I know it's not my bag!). Plus, my grandma was an Avon lady for years and years and years....so I'm keeping it in the family. :)

Any other Avon ladies out there?

[Aug2002Bride]

Jen

I know when I first moved into my neighborhood the Avon lady put a catalog in my newspaper box...I asked her how she does with doing this since I thought maybe I would try it out with my Pampered Chef Business and she told me she does very well at it! She gets at least 1-2 new customers every time she puts catalogs out there....So anyways just wanted to pass that along to you as maybe an idea you could try to get more business!

Good luck!

[Lydia]

I'm an AVON lady! Email (lydiaach@yahoo.com) me with any questions...

[ButterflyJen]

Will do! Thanks! :)

[BethElena]

Any con's to clever kingdom? i may be interested in this when I'm done my schooling 05/06.

Edited: Also, not to be too personal, but how do you deal with taxes at the end of the year? How do you deal with that with direct sales things?

[Carissa]

jeeplover It's $29 to sign up. If you want more info. feel free to pm me.

[EmilyZA]

Yeah its $200 every 2 months. I find its pretty easy to keep up with...there was one month I begged my friend to have a catalog show for me but other than that just peoples individual orders carry me through even with no shows. Im glad those count!!
Okay, so I know you responded to me eons ago, but I was just looking at this again and had another question! :)

Does that $200 have to be in one order, or over the course of those two months?

[Aug2002Bride]

over the course of 2 months...in a consecutive 2 month time period you have to submit 200 dollars

[KRM&TPS]

Any con's to clever kingdom? i may be interested in this when I'm done my schooling 05/06.

Edited: Also, not to be too personal, but how do you deal with taxes at the end of the year? How do you deal with that with direct sales things?


Sorry I am just responding to this so late. I have been away from the computer for about a week. What exactly do you mean about con's? I think it is pretty straight forward. I would be happy to answer any of your questions.

As far as taxes I am not sure. I just started doing this a few months ago so I have not done the tax thing. My MIL just started doing BeautiControl. Her director she signed up with recommended her reading the book Lower your Taxes - Big Time by Sandy Botkin. It lists all sort of ways you can get tax breaks just from doing a direct sales job. Like for instance deducting a vacation to visit friends. For instance you could do a show there and just have some sort of proof. Like maybe emails with your friend confirming the party date.

I am going to buy the book and read it. I hope it will help me out.

[BethElena]

Thanks KRM&TPS for responding! I typed that post and then saw the cost of the cloths...I think if I get into something, it will probably be pampered chef...Definitely something to look into next year! I'll have to get that book, too!

[Aug2002Bride]

Let me know if either of you need help or just more questions answered with Pampered Chef!

[EmilyZA]

Thanks! I will let you know!

[kcjules]

I sell Avon :)

Just started on 11/21 and already have 8 orders. Still need to put books out in the neighborhood, etc. It's only $10 to start up, you keep no inventory, no parties and no minimums. Plus, Avon sells itself.

PM me with any questions!

[udsweetpea]

I have a question... do these companies have a problem if you sell from multiple companies? Let's say I wanted to sell Southern Living at Home, Pampered Chef, Avon, and Passion Parties. Would they care?

I'm thinking about doing a variety of different things.

[Lydia]

Nope-you're an independant consultant so you don't have to answer to anyone. There are stipulations, however, on how you can market yourself. I know that with AVON you are not allowed to have business cards made up with anyone else's company on it.

[Aug2002Bride]

I do Pampered Chef, but also did another DS company last year.

[udsweetpea]

I'm signing up to become a Southern Living at Home consultant today. I've already spoken with my sponsor 3 times today, and she's amazing! She has a team of 40 so she must be great!

I also went on Avon's website, and someone should be contacting me soon. Or can one of you ladies sponsor me?

And my FSIL is brand spankin' new with Passion Parties, and I think I'll sign up with her for that.

How much fun is that?!!?!? YAY!

ETA- I just looked at Pampered Chef's website too. The start-up kit is only $90. Maybe I should do that too. Anyone want to sponsor me?

[Aug2002Bride]

I will for Pampered Chef. Let me know!

[isign]

Before you check into avon, let me talk to you about Mary Kay. It's an amazing company that is so so easy to move up in. I've been in a short time and I am loving it. PM me if you want more info, or check out MaryKay.com.

[trefoil]

I'm a demonstrator with a craft company, but I do it to get a discount on the merchandise and don't run it as a business (i.e. I'm what is referred to as a "hobby demonstrator"). People do make money doing this - I'm just not an example of one of them. ;)

[Kristen&Cary]

Subscribing:) I recently (1/21) became a Home Interiors Decorating consultant. We get our items at 45% & each month the week when new merchandise comes out we get to take additional 25% off our cost . I’ve had so many parties that when I was thinking about selling something HI was at the top of my list along with Mary Kay, but a friend of mine started selling HI so I decided that I would just sing up under her.

[Lydia]

UDsweetpea, you can email me if you want me to send you info about AVON. Check out my website at www.youravon.com/lacheson

[Kingdono]

Can someone PM me about Pampered Chef I have a bunch of logistical questions. It would be helpful if you also had a full time office job and kid's I am worried abotu the time commitment but we coudl really use some extra cash.

[MES in Chicago]

Kingdono - I am in the same boat as you, but no kids. I am thinking of signing up I am just a little nervous :o

Aug2002Bride - I would love to pick your brain a bit on PC. I am signing up and excited, but nervous at the same time. :D

[LSirola]

My mom and I are Partylite consultants! My mom signed up two years ago, thinking she could have a few parties and get a great discount since we love candles. But she doesn't know how to use a computer all that well, so I enter all of her candle orders after shows. It works out fine. We love the candles and have way too many. We hardly ever have shows anymore, just book parties from friends and coworkers. Sometimes my mom and I will put together a huge order, getting the hostess specials and hostess credit, then we also get paid for it later.
Anyone else do Partylite?
Lauren

[pacificbliss]

Lauren I am considering PartyLite now. Not as a full-time job but for extra $$$. Any advice? I take it you enjoy it?

[chloechloe]

Hi all
I am wondering if anyone sells ALOETTE products and what they think of it?

[Aug2002Bride]

Hi all
I am wondering if anyone sells ALOETTE products and what they think of it?

Ive never even heard of it! What is it?

[dizylizy]

I am an Artistry and Nutrilite consultant. Skin care and Cosemtics and Vitamins. They are the best. My skin just glows. The make stays put. I can tell when I haven't taken my vitamins. Organic and great for you. Plus, the Nurtilte line has weight control bars, shakes and supplements that are helping me to lose all the baby weight. They bars are wonderful. they don't taste chalky or powrdery. and use real chocolate!
can I post my website for you to access?

[Lydia]

I just have to brag about my direct sales experience so far!

I have been with AVON for a year and I didn't really expect to do much with it. 13 months later, I have 16 women under me and have made Presidents' Club, a big deal within AVON.

It's exceeded my expectations!

[Lianne]

I've done PartyLite - still active, just not doing shows anymore. I'm currently with Stampin' Up! for hobby and business - hoping to grow the business side :)

[chloechloe]

Aloette is a skin care line.....view here:

http://www.aloettecosmetics.com/default.aspx?culture=usa

[scout]

I recently started doing Direct Sales as a wine consultant through The Traveling Vineyard (www.winetastingevent.com/tracie). Basically, I do wine tastings in people's homes! It's been so much fun so far, and it's been really easy to get bookings.

[dizylizy]

you can check out my skin care and cosemetics line at www.artistry.com
such great stuff! My skin has never looked better!

[Indiana Bride]

I just found this thread-I'm a Creative Memories Consultant:)

[EmilyZA]

Has anyone heard of B's Purses (http://www.bspurses.com)? I contacted them for info, I'm not really sure if it's something I want to do but it does sound intriguing.

[Indiana Bride]

I've never heard of that but it looks interesting-good luck!

[NicoleWisconsin]

I recently started doing Direct Sales as a wine consultant through The Traveling Vineyard (www.winetastingevent.com/tracie). Basically, I do wine tastings in people's homes! It's been so much fun so far, and it's been really easy to get bookings.

Yeah, I bet it's easy to convince people when they are drunk! :p (Just kidding!)

Former PartyLite consultant here.

[JoyousAutumn]

Very inactive Partylite consultant here- I'm in it for the candle discount- love them!

I've considered Avon and Tupperware- Tupperware for the discount as well, and Avon just because I've heard so much good about it.

[scout]

Yeah, I bet it's easy to convince people when they are drunk! LOL! The wine DOES help a bit.........:p

[godsgift77]

Hi all!!

I'm a Pampered Chef consultant, work full time and am a wife and mom... *whew* and am looking for another DS opportunity - i want to be a SAHM when we TTC #2

I was just reading in our Kids Directory that The Body Shop is starting DS. Anyone tried it yet? Oh and what about Baby Signs?

[mmm0708]

I've been a PartyLite consultant for 6 years. I was consistently active when I worked FT outside of the home and only did it as a hobby consultant. When my son was born, and I quit my JOB, I planned on doing PL "FT". But I lost the spark.

I've since become a Discovery Toys consultant. I LOVE it. :)

I'm also a consultant for Lady Emily cosmetics, only for the personal discount though.

[JubileeDawning]

Hey ladies!

I'm interested in starting AVON as an on the side job- I'm getting my Masters currently and work as a youth minister at a church with my husband, and wait tables at a local resturant. I would be hoping to replace two shifts a week with AVON income, around $500 a month. Is this a realistic goal, without making it my whole life, or do I need to look elsewhere!? Thanks in advance for the help, I want all the info I can get in advance, before I get sucked in!!

Melissa

[jeeplover]

Hi Melissa,
I sell AVON as well! I think that is a realistic goal but it might take a little while to get off your feet with it.

I will PM you!

[JubileeDawning]

jeeplover- i tried to PM you back, but your box is full. i was just interested in more info- how much you work at it, how much you make, how much you made in the first months... if you don't mind answering. you can PM me back if you would like. thanks so much!

Melissa

[oshannon]

I'm getting started with Tastefully Simple as we speak. Anyone else familiar with their yummy stuff?

[trefoil]

I'm getting started with Tastefully Simple as we speak. Anyone else familiar with their yummy stuff?

Mmm. Yep! I love to attend Tastefully Simple parties. Pampered Chef and Tastefully Simple are my favorite two types of parties to attend. I'll let you guess the common theme that makes them my favorite direct sales parties to attend. ;)

[oshannon]

Hey, trefoil...

If you're interested in hosting a catalog party this fall, let me know and I'll hook you up!

(That's me working the networking thing.)

Seriously, though... :cool:

[trefoil]

Hee! I don't host parties, even catalog parties, unfortunately. I'm one of those people who is obsessively worried about asking anyone to buy anything. Technically, I'm a demonstrator for a stamp company. I won't even host parties for myself! Fortunately, MIL and I have no trouble wiping out my quarterly minimums. :cool:

I wish you all the luck in the world on your new venture, though! I know you have very convenient, yummy products!

[Aug2002Bride]

I love Tastefully Simple products too! One of my really good friends sells it here and is always trying to get me to sell it. But I love just buying the stuff! Its all soooooooooo yummy!!!

[tgr68]

Officially signing up with Creative Memories tomorrow!!

I think it's a great idea to have a party to celebrate your new business! :) What a way to break the ice!

Carissa~Would you mind sharing some of your sales tactics other than the typical parties?

Taxes~From what I understand, you have to fill out a Schedule C for income tax purposes, so I would check the IRS website to see what all information you need to fill out that form. Also, DH saves all his receipts that are related to his business in anyway - driving to a clients home, a dinner between appts, etc!

Any other advice for a newbie consultant would be great!!! :cool:

[med12]

Hi all....just found this thread. Was hoping someone that is a Discovery Toys consultant could contact me and help me out with some questions I have. I've been thinking about doing this as a side business but wasn't sure of the time/money commitment and the website doesn't really give a ton of information. I don't know anyone personally that does it so I can't ask them.

Any info would be appreciated!

[lonestardawn]

I'm an Independent Consultant for Arbonne International - pure, safe, beneficial health, beauty and wellness products. I love them! They have the best skin care system I have ever used!

[Delaney21]

A girl I know got started with Arbonne late last year (Oct) and she already has the mercedes convertible and is ready to quit her teaching job to do Arbonne full time, which is great for her, but I think she's doing something illegal for it.

When she has a party, she tells everyone that in order to get a discount, they need to provide their social security number. She then takes their SS# and signs them up as consultants (without their knowledge) and runs sales through her name so it looks like she has more people below her who are making money. She finally admitted this to her best friend after she got a letter in the mail, welcoming her to Arbonne. It seems to me like this is both SS fraud and tax evasion. Is this something Arbonne teaches, or is it only her district?

[lonestardawn]

It is always unfortunate when one person does something that appears improper/unethical and gives everyone associated with that company a bad name. It is true that Arbonne offers a 35% discount to consultants. In order to receive that discount you sign up as a consultant and place an order for the products you plan to use personally for yourself. Since there is no minimum purchase required (quota), most people choose this method of purchase if they plan to use Arbonne products regularly. Arbonne does require that you provide your SSN when you sign up as a consultant because you have the potential to earn income which Arbonne reports to the IRS at tax time. The only way the IRS has to track incomes is our SSN. So asking people for their SSN to sign up as a consultant is perfectly legal.

Her method of signing up many people under her (ie. sponsoring) is also perfectly legal. Arbonne pays consultants based on the retail volume they purchase and the people they sponsor purchase. So it doesn't matter how many people you sponsor (ie. it doesn't affect your income). What does matter is the retail volume you sell and they sell. Most "consultants" are just people who sign up to recieve the discount on the products. Why buy something at full price when you can get it 35% off?

It sounds as though the problem comes in when she doesn't explain to her customers that they will be signing up as consultants to receive the discount. From what you have said it doesn't sound like she is doing anything wrong other than not explaining throughly why she needs in info she is asking for and the benefits they will receive.

I hope that helps explain things. If you have any other questions please let me know as I would hate for anyone to have a bad impression due to too little/poor information! If you haven't tried the products yet, you should!

[LeslieR]

Does anyone know anything about a company calledMemoryWorks (http://www.memory-works.com)? I stumbled upon them through a google search. I'm interested in finding out more about this company. I emailed one of their local consultants and asked her some questions, but I was wondering if anyone here knows anything about the company? TIA!

[gf&js]

In order to receive that discount you sign up as a consultant and place an order for the products you plan to use personally for yourself. Since there is no minimum purchase required (quota), most people choose this method of purchase if they plan to use Arbonne products regularly.

lonestardawn - I have a friend that recently joined in and asked me to take a look to see if it is something of interest to me. I am a bit confused though by your statement above - if you sign up as a consultant - aren't you charged a "registration" fee? And as far as quota - the website indicates that you do have a minimum monthly sales volumn to retain your active status - am I miss reading this?

[lonestardawn]

gf&js - Yes, in order to sign up as a consultant there is a $34 fee ($29 membership fee + $5 shipping). This is for your new consultant package which has information about starting your own Arbonne business.

This is the way I explain this to my customers: If you are placing an order for $100, then it would be beneficial to you to sign up as a consultant. You receive the 35% discount (save $35 on your $100 order) and spend $34 on the new consultant fee. So you "break even" on the amount of money you are spending. Arbonne currently offers a new consultant gift - any one product for free during your first month when you place a $100 order. So by signing up as a consultant you are paying the same amount for your first order as you would if you didn't sign up. The benefit is that you receive a free product and 35% off any orders in the next year.

Another way to think of this is to compare it to a wholesale club membership such as Costco or Sam's Club. You pay a yearly membership fee to purchase the items they sell at the wholesale price.

The $100 minimum monthly purchase only comes into play when you are building a business. Arbonne pays you as an Independent Consultant based on the amount of purchases made by the people you have sponsored. If you aren't sponsoring anyone, then you won't be making any income. Therefore you don't need to make that $100 purchase each month. If you are sponsoring people, you must make the $100 purchase each month in order to receive your paycheck.

I am sure that your friend will be able to explain all of this much better in person or over the phone. Since she recently joined, I would also reccommend talking to her sponsor, District Manager, and Area Manager as you are making a decision. These are the people who will be providing you with support and ideas for building a business so be sure to ask them all of your questions too. Good luck and I hope my answers helped!

[Delaney21]

Her method of signing up many people under her (ie. sponsoring) is also perfectly legal. Arbonne pays consultants based on the retail volume they purchase and the people they sponsor purchase. So it doesn't matter how many people you sponsor (ie. it doesn't affect your income). What does matter is the retail volume you sell and they sell. Most "consultants" are just people who sign up to recieve the discount on the products. Why buy something at full price when you can get it 35% off?

But when she is selling a product she puts it under the other person's name - therefore, either avoiding tax for herself or creating a bigger tax for the other consultant, which is illegal on both sides. Am I missing something?

[lonestardawn]

Delaney21,

Sorry, but it is difficult for me to answer your questions since I don't have first hand knowledge of the situation. I am not sure what you mean by "avoiding tax for herself or creating a bigger tax for the other consultant". The person purchasing the products pays the tax on those products. So even if she is using another consultant's ID to order an item, the person placing the order is still paying the tax. I'm sorry, but maybe I don't understand what you are asking?

[Delaney21]

I am not sure what you mean by "avoiding tax for herself or creating a bigger tax for the other consultant". The person purchasing the products pays the tax on those products. So even if she is using another consultant's ID to order an item, the person placing the order is still paying the tax. I'm sorry, but maybe I don't understand what you are asking?

That's sales tax - I'm talking about income tax. Who ever makes the sale has to pay income tax on it because it would be income. If she is putting orders under other people's names, she is putting the profit under their name, which then creates a bigger tax liability for that person.

[Lydia]

Is anyone else in a slump due to summer? I feel like my orders lately have been tiny!

[Kristen&Cary]

Lydia~
Same here i have actually had to have other people place my order a few times b/c i couldn't meet my minimum order total.

In other news i have just signed up to do Arbonne along with my Home Interiores. I was just turned on to Arbonne about a month ago & LOVE their products! I can't wait to get going with my Arbonnw bussines!

[dizylizy]

yeah- my orders ahve lessened a bit, too

Just got back from a great conference. Met the lady that designs our line (naocosemetics.com and artistry.com) She is so great. I learned how to better apply make up, how to use a new approach to foundation application, how to add color highlights with pigment and gel, great liner application and mascara (on people) I am good on myself but doing others seems to be an aquired skill... (don't want to poke them in the eye with mascara....) So fun! Love the new stuff coming out!

[scout]

Is anyone else in a slump due to summer? I don't have any trouble booking parties (wine tastings are a big thing in the summer!) but I have noticed that my sales haven't been very high. Maybe people have less money to spend on luxury items due to the high cost of gas?

[tgr68]

I'll be hosting my first crop this weekend. Myself and another consultant will be hosting it together. We are just basically giving people a space to work on their albums/projects and making ourselves available if they need any assistance using supplies or coming up with page layouts. Any suggestions for what I should do? Do you think I should take my album to work on during the downtime?

I'll be taking snacks, product catalogues, a few products I currently have (my big order won't be in by Friday), order forms, and information cards. Anything else you would recommend?

TIA!!!

[EmilyZA]

I'll be hosting my first crop this weekend. Myself and another consultant will be hosting it together. We are just basically giving people a space to work on their albums/projects and making ourselves available if they need any assistance using supplies or coming up with page layouts. Any suggestions for what I should do? Do you think I should take my album to work on during the downtime?

I'll be taking snacks, product catalogues, a few products I currently have (my big order won't be in by Friday), order forms, and information cards. Anything else you would recommend?

TIA!!!

I'm a former CM consultant, and I would DEFINITELY bring my own books to something like that. I think it's a great idea.

What about prizes or something like that? Maybe some games, contests, etc.?

[tgr68]

Emily~Thanks! My first two crops will be free of charge since September is our customer appreciation crop. Maybe I could do a Bingo game or something like that for a third free crop coupon. September is also our Great Gathering, and my upline usually gives away an album with her downline giving away $30 worth of borders/text boxes.

[EmilyZA]

I've posted in this thread before, because I'm always batting around the idea of getting into another DS opportunity. I'm back on the "maybe" side again.

I really want to be a SAHM once we have children (not pregnant right now) but at this point, we just couldn't swing it. I'm trying to think of ways that I can work but still be home with my kids during the day, and I'm considering this route again. I was a Creative Memories consultant for a bit, and I really didn't have any luck with it... I'm not a pushy person by any means, and that's why I'm very hesitant to really start exploring anything. Any tips?

[tgr68]

My first workshop was a success!!! I also having 2 get togethers in the works! :D

Emily~I have a good friend who does Avon. She said there is a very low start up cost, and since it is pretty much a household name, the products sell themselves.

[Aug2002Bride]

I think Avon would be easy. I also think any company that is "consumable" is a good option. My friend sells Tastefully Simple and its nice for her because people call for reorders of the food products and she can do fine business off of just those. I think they make around 36% which is pretty good. I can give you more info on it if that might be something your interested in. Ill ask her for it if you want. If I was to sign up for something again I would do TS. The food products are yummy, simple to make, not too expensive and people want to reorder if they like something and use it often.

[scout]

I'm not a pushy person by any means, and that's why I'm very hesitant to really start exploring anything. Any tips?
I'm not pushy either, and it took me awhile to find something I felt comfortable with. My advice is to find something that you LOVE. For me, it was wine. For you it might be scrapbooking, jewelry, make up, natural products, etc. Once you find something that you really love you won't be pushy--you'll just be enthusiastic. I do in home wine tastings and it's so much fun, because I'm excited about teaching people about wine. I know other people love cooking and so their venue is Pampered Chef.

[EmilyZA]

My friend sells Tastefully Simple and its nice for her because people call for reorders of the food products and she can do fine business off of just those. I think they make around 36% which is pretty good. I can give you more info on it if that might be something your interested in.
That is actually one of the ones I was considering b/c I love their products... I'm a huge TS fan. Does she like it?

[Carissa]

A girl I know got started with Arbonne late last year (Oct) and she already has the mercedes convertible and is ready to quit her teaching job to do Arbonne full time, which is great for her, but I think she's doing something illegal for it.

When she has a party, she tells everyone that in order to get a discount, they need to provide their social security number. She then takes their SS# and signs them up as consultants (without their knowledge) and runs sales through her name so it looks like she has more people below her who are making money. She finally admitted this to her best friend after she got a letter in the mail, welcoming her to Arbonne. It seems to me like this is both SS fraud and tax evasion. Is this something Arbonne teaches, or is it only her district?

No this is NOT something Arbonne teaches and I am so glad she isn't on my team. What she is doing is totally against company policy every person who signs up whether to start their own business or for the discount MUST know what is going on. It is consultants like that who tick me off because they don't follow the rules and in turn give Arbonne a bad rap. I have people in my upline that have done it the right way and are driving their mercedes.


tgr68 Well for me in the Arbonne business I do a lot of gift baskets especially around the holidays, one on one consultations where people come into my home sit down with me and we go over what products would work the best for their skin, what color make-up is right for them etc. I also get client referrals from Arbonne's main website so I can follow up with them the ones that are ligit turn out to be returning clients usually on the monthly basis esepcially if they are using Arbonne's weight loss/nurtritional products. I have done one party this year everything else has been one on one or through my website. I am also starting to look into hosting online parties. I don't know if that helps you any but that is what I mean by not having to do parties.

[tgr68]

Carissa~Thanks for the feedback!! I know Creative Memories is entering into "Open House" season. I'll have to see what all that entails, but from what I understand, it's not the typical get together but rather a product showcase.

[Carissa]

tgr Open houses are fun we usually do those around the Holidays to so off our Holiday line.

[trm98]

Question about Arbonne? I am very close to signing on, but I want all the information. Someone stated that if you are a BB you must purchase $100 a month. Is that you personally, or all sales for you and people under you?

Also, I have seen some boards where consultants talk about how they are up for Dm or Area and need to make the requirement this month. What does that mean? Do you only have so much time to get to each step?

[Carissa]

Question about Arbonne? I am very close to signing on, but I want all the information. Someone stated that if you are a BB you must purchase $100 a month. Is that you personally, or all sales for you and people under you?

Also, I have seen some boards where consultants talk about how they are up for Dm or Area and need to make the requirement this month. What does that mean? Do you only have so much time to get to each step?

I believe that is $100 in personal retail volume.

Here is the webpage on the main Arbonne website that will give a timeline to different qualifications.
Arbonne Website qualification page. (http://www.arbonne.com/company/success_plan.asp?i=qualification)









I just joined Stuff a Friend which is like a direct sale build a bear it's free to join, and also found another direct sale company called Wrap it Right and they are offering free sign up until the 500th consultant. They both sounded like fun and hey who can beat free.

[scubasam]

I've lurked in here for awhile but am finally getting around to posting! I am a consultant w/ Arbonne. Glad to see a couple others here! :) There aren't a whole lot of people doing Arbonne actively (as BB's) in my area (Seattle) so it's cool to have others here to chat with!

Question about Arbonne? I am very close to signing on, but I want all the information. Someone stated that if you are a BB you must purchase $100 a month. Is that you personally, or all sales for you and people under you?

I know Carissa already answered but wanted to reconfirm that the $100 ($65 wholesale) a month is you personally (aka "PRV" - personal retail volume).

Also wanted to say thank you to Carissa for addressing the issue re: signing up consultants w/o their knowledge. I read that post and didn't have time to come in and respond but it really bothered me that someone is doing that!!

[Lydia]

I just joined a Yahoo group called Order Swap Galore where basically a whole bunch of consultants get together and buy each other's products to help boost sales. I think it's a great idea b/c I can get gifts and stuff and then at least twice a year, a whole bunch of people are ordering from me! I'm still new to the process but so far it's working out well!

[hokiegirl]

Scout - how did you get into the wine biz? That sounds like something up my alley!!!

[ebsbenhart7]

I am thinking about be coming a direct seller. I have some questions for all of you if you don't mind.

What are/were you selling?

When did you start?

Earnings per month?

How much do you work per week?

Start up costs?

Secret to your success?

Challenges?

Rewards?

Advice?

[Carissa]

I am thinking about be coming a direct seller. I have some questions for all of you if you don't mind.

What are/were you selling?

When did you start?

Earnings per month?

How much do you work per week?

Start up costs?

Secret to your success?

Challenges?

Rewards?

Advice?



What are/were you selling? I sell Arbonne, Stuff a Friend( Like Build a Bear), and Wrap it Right( Stationary, gift wrap, cello bags etc.)

When did you start? I started with Arbonne 4/05 and Stuff a Friend and Wrap it right last month

Earnings per month? With Arbonne in a slow month I make about $30.00 that is usually because I don't have a lot of time to spend on it or don't have a party. I also have only done 1 party in my 1 1/2 years with the company. The Other two companies I don't know yet but I have a lot of interest in Stuff a Friend which is like a Build a Bear

How much do you work per week? Lately I have been spending about 20 hours a week on my companies and it is starting to pay off. I have gotten into online vendor fairs and parties and really gotten the word out about myself.

Start up costs? Arbonne is $29 to start up no minimums to remain a consultant unless you want to go for the mercedes, Stuff a Friend and Wrap it Right are both free to join with no minimums and you get a free website.

Secret to your success? Just getting the word out there, investing in some advertising like magnets for my car.

Challenges? Time because I have a 15 month old and one on the way!

Rewards? I love being able to do online parties and working from home where I can have time with my daughter, it's taken some time to get myself out there, I am pretty shy and I think that is what draws me to do the online vendor fairs and parties. I also love sharing the products I believe in.

Advice? Find something you love and just do it! One caution would be not to get started with a company that has a big start up fee and then big minimums if you arn't serious about it because you would be wasting your money. I made that mistake at first but then found Arbonne and now Stuff a Friend which has quickly become a part of my life and my daughter loves the Stuff animals!

If you have any questions about the Companies I rep for feel free to PM me! Carissa

[KRM&TPS]

I recently signed up with Taste of Home Entertaining. It is brand new direct sales company started by Bill Shaw. It is an extension of Taste of Home magazine which is owned by Reader's Digest.

It was $199 to join but the kit is valued at $600. Also they are running a big promotion where whoever joins in September gets two additional items were $150. And they are offering double hostess credits for September. So Im pretty excited that this will be a good month.

Taste of Home Entertaining (http://www.entertainingathome.com/index.html)

The products are pretty reasonable. Ranging from $8.96 - $180 for some of the nicer cookware. But most things are in the $20 -$30 range. It includes Mario Batalli stuff and the new Rachel Ray magazine.

Sorry I blabbed on for so long. I just got my kit today and I am so excited.

[dizylizy]

lydia-
I was trying to find the order swap galore group. but can't. it is on yahoo?

[Lydia]

lydia-
I was trying to find the order swap galore group. but can't. it is on yahoo?

Here is the link (http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/OrderSwapGalore/).

[Carissa]

I have joined several Free to almost free direct sale companies if you would like to know more feel free to PM me :)

[mel7dog]

Ok I am thinking about starting MaryKay or Avon, but have a few questions.

What is the start up cost for MaryKay? Do you have to have parties to sell lots of stuff, or do you have regular customers as well?

[Lydia]

Ok I am thinking about starting MaryKay or Avon, but have a few questions.

What is the start up cost for MaryKay? Do you have to have parties to sell lots of stuff, or do you have regular customers as well?

AVON is 10.00 to start and you don't have any order minimums to meet. Your "commission" each campaign (a two-week cycle) depends on the total sales amount. It can be anywhere from 20% to 50% and when you start you are guaranteed 50% for your first 4 campaigns. I've been doing it for a year and a half and I love it.

[mel7dog]

Lydia - Thanks for the info. I think AVON would be a good way for me to start because you don't have much to lose! I may PM you about it with more questions if you don't mind! :)

[Lydia]

Lydia - Thanks for the info. I think AVON would be a good way for me to start because you don't have much to lose! I may PM you about it with more questions if you don't mind! :)

Please do! Or IM me at lydiaach (Yahoo) or lydiaacheson (AIM)

[charliezangel]

Lydia, are you an online consultant as well? I don't have a consultant at work and i stopped selling last year. I would like to purchase some things, but i find that there is more available through the cataloges than online.

[Lydia]

Lydia, are you an online consultant as well? I don't have a consultant at work and i stopped selling last year. I would like to purchase some things, but i find that there is more available through the cataloges than online.

Yes I am and I ship for free...

www.youravon.com/lacheson

[mel7dog]

I just signed up with Lydia to be an AVON Consultant and am very excited :)

[tgr68]

Good luck with the new venture!

[scout]

What are/were you selling? I do in home wine tastings, and sell wine and wine accessories.

When did you start? Last March

Earnings per month? 20% of what I sell--my checks are usually around $400 a month.

How much do you work per week? I work six hours a month.

Start up costs? $99

Secret to your success? No secret--many people love wine, or want to learn more about wine, so it's really easy to book parties. Plus, I get to try new wines, and drink wine while I'm working, so it's an enjoyable job!

Challenges? Getting people to buy more than just a few bottles of wine. Shipping is $8.95 whether they buy one bottle or a case (12 bottles) so it doesn't make much sense to only buy one or two bottles.

Rewards? Did I mention the wine? :)

Advice? Be selective about who you book parties with. Some people want to just score five free bottles of wine.

[cpaccione]

I've been selling JAFRA for almost 3 months now and I love it! I'm surprised I haven't seen Jafra mentioned yet. I'll answer these basic questions and would love to hear from anyone else interested in Jafra as well!

What are/were you selling? Jafra Skincare and Cosmetics

When did you start? July 2006

Earnings per month? 50% of what I sell if order totals $300. Commissions are paid up front which is nice. Currently I've made about $500 and have reinvested most of that back into the business to get more sample products.

How much do you work per week? I spend about 2-3 hours a day on my business. Currently a little more because I'm trying to build my own website for it. But I have a 1 year old and a 2 year old so it's always around their nap/bed times.

Start up costs? $49, plus a $300 retail order (which only cost $150 because of my discount). The case is valued at over $600, plus Jafra is always throwing in free products here and there.

Secret to your success? I'm still working on it...I wouldn't call myself a "success" just yet.

Challenges? I'm not a very pushy salesperson and it's hard for me to approach new people outside of my comfort zone.

Rewards? Extra money while getting to stay home with my kids.

Advice? Only sell something your truly believe in...I whole heartedly LOVE Jafra products and skincare in general love sharing them with people. But if you do have a party keep it on the smaller side if it's skincare or cosmetics so you can have time to address everyone's needs. My last party was too big and I was too overwhelmed!

[jeeplover]

Hey Mel-I too sell AVON and signed up under Lydia!

[mel7dog]

Hey Mel-I too sell AVON and signed up under Lydia!
Oh that's right! I forgot I had talked to you about it a while back :o

[brandonsbride]

I like the SLAH stuff as well and thought about doing that but it is on the expensive side and just didnt know how well I would be able to sell it. I then thought about toys but wanted something I could sell to pretty much anyone...so thats why I went with Pampered Chef...some stuff is a little pricey I think, but I also have found that people are very receptive to PC and love the stuff..and theres something for every budget. I also did it because I figured how hard can a party be...just show up and make a recipe using our stuff....it seemed much easier than say trying to show someone how to decorate different ways with items.

Does anyone here sell Lia Sophia jewelry?

Also whoever sells SLAH, I would love to see a current catalog! I havent seen one since I stopped working after having DD!


I recently started selling Lia Sophia. I was just browsing through this thread to see if there were any other Lia Sophia consultants out there...but I don't see any!

[udsweetpea]

For the Avon ladies...

Is it really just $10 to start? Do I have to submit a certain amount of purchases for each month?

[Lydia]

yep, it is...no sales minimums or inventory...PM me and I can give you more info!

[sublime311]

Lydia, I've contacted you via your AVON website. I'm interested in more info, too!

[sublime311]

Hey! I'm all official! I signed up under Lydia, also! I'm super excited to get going.

It really is just $10! In addition to the brochures, I'm also an Erepresentative. Setting up my website couldn't have been easier! I chose my layout and edited some personal info and VIOLA! I have my little store front on the web. Cool. Now, I just need to get some business cards made with my name, number, and web address listed so I can attach them to the brochures I leave around.

What I like is that AVON basically extends you a line of credit. Once you place your first order, they'll send you the products wihin 2-3 days, you get the products delivered and collect the money. The payment is due before you submit your next order. For some reason, I was always under the impression that I would have to pay for the order THEN try to collect. This certainly makes it MUCH easier.

[udsweetpea]

I signed up for Avon yesterday with Lydia too. It's on my to-do list to set up my webpage today. I'm so excited!!! I talked to one of my friends last night who I thought sold Avon, but she doesn't anymore and is interested in being one of my customers. And BF's mom can't stop spending her money on Avon stuff, so I'll have to steal her from the Avon rep she uses now ;)

[sublime311]

Hey, CC is going to make Lydia a rich woman! Ok, maybe not "rich", but richer!

Is there an AVON Rep thread already?? If not, we should start one.

[udsweetpea]

Are there mens' products on Avon? I just got an email saying I had a new customer on my webpage, and its a male. The name sounds familiar, but I'm not sure who it is. If there aren't mens' products, I'm a little worried.

ETA- Ok, I just saw there's a men's cologne. Not so worried now.

[udsweetpea]

I started the thread Kelli mentioned... Avon Reps (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1169990#post1169990)

[sublime311]

I started the thread Kelli mentioned... Avon Reps (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1169990#post1169990)
You rock!!

[udsweetpea]

Why thank ya!

[Carissa]

I just joined Mineral Girlz it's free

http://www.themineralprincess.com

[mamax2]

Originally Posted by Aug2002Bride
I like the SLAH stuff as well and thought about doing that but it is on the expensive side and just didnt know how well I would be able to sell it. I then thought about toys but wanted something I could sell to pretty much anyone...so thats why I went with Pampered Chef...some stuff is a little pricey I think, but I also have found that people are very receptive to PC and love the stuff..and theres something for every budget. I also did it because I figured how hard can a party be...just show up and make a recipe using our stuff....it seemed much easier than say trying to show someone how to decorate different ways with items.

Does anyone here sell Lia Sophia jewelry?

Also whoever sells SLAH, I would love to see a current catalog! I havent seen one since I stopped working after having DD!

I think this might have been posted a long time ago, but I am about to re-join SLAH. If anyone is interested, I'm happy to pass on more info. I first joined about 4.5 years ago, but then dropped out last year because I had a lot of stuff going on (building a house, having a second baby, real estate). The real estate market is slow and I want some stuff for my house, so here I am again! Happy to provide info. for anyone who has questions though :)

[May27JnJ]

I used to be a PartyLite consultant. It was ok until I had to bust my butt to get sales by the end of the month. And then had to bust my butt to get more sales so my leader could win a trip. It ended up not being my business.

I've thought about Avon. Seriously...
How much to start?
How much do you have to sell a month to stay active?
How much do you make off the sales?
Are there any meetings you have to go to?

[Aug2002Bride]

I just had a tastefully simple party tonight and it was really yummy stuff!!!

[jeeplover]

I used to be a PartyLite consultant. It was ok until I had to bust my butt to get sales by the end of the month. And then had to bust my butt to get more sales so my leader could win a trip. It ended up not being my business.

I've thought about Avon. Seriously...
How much to start?
How much do you have to sell a month to stay active?
How much do you make off the sales?
Are there any meetings you have to go to?


I just sent you a PM.

[Astara]

Hi :) Fellow consultants! I havent had a chance to read through the entire thread yet but I will later hopefully.

I am a Temptations Parties consultant... anyone else here with TP?

[lindybug]

BUMP!

I am thinking of becoming a consultant... Maybe Pampered Chef, since I love their products. But there are SO MANY of them already. Or maybe Lia Sophia or Silpada.

[mamax2]

lindybug ~ You should do whatever you're passionate about. It doesn't necessarily matter if there are a lot of other consultants doing the same thing; it's crucial that you really love the product.

I sell Southern Living at Home because it's the ONLY party plan company I could do. I just don't love enough of the products from any other company, kwim? I mean, I can go to other parties and always find something to buy but it's not the same as having a never-ending wish list :p

If anyone's interested... SLAH starter kit is HALF-PRICE right now. Yup, just $99 for $500 worth of products. PM me if anyone wants more details. :)

[EmilyZA]

Is anyone here familiar with Pink Package (http://www.pinkpackage.com/)?

[Carissa]

You guys should think about Tupperware it is only $69.99 to start right now and you get your own website for the first month free, plus awesome discounts on the products!

[emschwar]

Does anyone do discovery toys? Can you give me info about start-up costs, minimum sales, etc? Thanks.

[lindybug]

I'd love to hear more from the Tastefully Simple, Silpada, and Lia Sophia consultants. Specifically:

How much do you have to sell a month to stay active?
How much do you make off the sales?
Are there any meetings you have to go to?

[NotDesperate]

I signed up last week to sell Lia Sophia. I only saw one other LS rep on here,

BrandonsBride, are you still around? Does anyone else sell LS?

How do you like it? Do you make good money? Do you get enough bookings?

I am really excited about selling lia sophia, I am cautiously optimistic. I worry about getting bookings. I know if I can get bookings, i will have sales because the jewelry sells itself. I hope I do well though, I have already spent money, besides the kit fee, on business essential type stuff. I guess as long as I make my money back, I will be happy but my ultimate goal would be to do this full time!

My starter show is Thursday and, knowing my friends/family/coworkers, I don't think anyone will book a party! But I plan on getting my name out there and really putting forth a solid effort. I have the summer off (I'm a teacher), so I can really spend a lot of time if I need too.

If it is a slow summer, I know fall will be better when we are back in school and I can get other teachers to book shows. I only have a few teachers coming this Thursday because I am new and part-time, so many don't know me.

[emschwar]

I just signed up for discovery toys! I'm excited and nervous!

Any tips for a direct sales newbie?

[Aug2002Bride]

I love Lia Sophia!!!! And I also love Tastefully Simple.

Lindybug My best friend sells Tastefully Simple, so if you havent found someone already I can ask her the questions for you. Let me know!

Does anyone sell Close to my Heart?? Please contact me if you do!!!

[udsweetpea]

I'm thinking of doing a party at my office and having a few ladies from different companies set up tables and do their demonstrations. I'm thinking of Tastefully Simple, Longaberger, Southern Living at Home, Creative Memories and some others. For those of you that sell, would a party like this interest you or would it be competition?

[mamax2]

Andrea ~ I've done parties like that before (usually as a fundraiser for a school or something). It works well as long as you keep it diverse. For instance: only 1 jewelry company, 1 home products, 1 food, 1 wine, 1 make-up, etc. Overall, the sales tend to be lower than a regular party, but most consultants don't care about that because it's still good exposure into a new group of people. Also, companies that are cash & carry often do better at these types of shows.

[udsweetpea]

Thanks for the ideas mamax2!

Do Pampered Chef consultants need a kitchen in order to do a show?

[LeslieR]

Does anyone know anything about Pemier Designs, Inc.? My neighbor started selling this and I can't believe how well she's doing! She had a kick-off show at her house and earned $447 in free jewelry and her profit was $352 (50% of the show sales and less a jeweler's fee which is about $20, she said). She said she usually makes $330 a show for 3 hours of work. I'm thinking-3 parties a month and there's a $1000! I've seen two different catalogs and fell in love with a lot of the pieces. I'm going to host a party in September to see what it's like. I'm very intrigued to say the least.

[mamax2]

Andrea ~ Pampered Chef doesn't need a kitchen to do a show since they're usually just assembling, not actually cooking/baking. HOWEVER, the PC show is really demonstration-based. In the scenario you describe, I would make sure everyone understands there will be NO demos (because there's just no way to do that with so many people without boring the crap out of everyone!). It should be more of a display and chat type thing and I would do it 'Open House' style where people have a window (maybe 5-8pm?) to drop-in. I'd also think about doing it as a Happy Hour and providing snacks and wine. People shop more when they drink ;) :p

[mom2two]

I used to sell Home and Garden Party. I was only working 3-4 days a week at my Subway job (after being a SAHM 3 years). I got so discouraged because the only bookings I got was with family. I had NO LUCK. I don't know alot of people, and my family was willing to help, which I appreciate. But then I'd feel bad if they got something they didn't like or if the garden knome (or whatever it was) cracked. Then after a year, my whole starter kit went into retired status, so I'd have had to update my whole stock. I LOVED the jar candles though. Those sell themselves.
I read the first few pages of this thread and was going to check out some of the companies. I'd love to make more money and have fun doing it. Work at the sub shop is aggrevating with little teenagery fights. I'm annoyed. I just hated having such a hard time with the bookings.

[emschwar]

I haven't had much success with getting parties booked for Discovery Toys either. I haven't put a bunch of time into it, but I've been a consultant since June, and all my friends know it, and no one wants to host. But, I've gotten several orders from friends, so I'm doing ok. It's not a huge money maker, but I've probably earned back 2/3 of the $ I paid for my kit and I just got $50 in free product. (Of course, this doesn't take into acct the $ I've spent on toys for my kid!)

[mom2two]

em, that was my problem with HGP. I bought alot, which is at GREAT discount, and I sold alot through relatives. My close friends were busy, unemployed, or pregnant, so nobody really had time for a clean house to host a party or light candles anymore.
My cousin just had a Pampered Chef party and a bunch of relatives went to that. My MIL was mentioning she'd want to have a PC party in Nov or Dec before Xmas, and I was just on their site and it's pretty good deal to join.
When I was in HGP, my leader was really forceful that I HAD to book and I MUST'VE been doing something wrong at the shows. Or she wanted me to recruit other people so I gain a percentage off of them. I just want to have fun and make money doing it.
I know alot of people join at first just for the discounts. I was so excited with HGP, but when you have a party and nobody books, you're stuck. I'd love to sell things, but I don't know what to do.
I don't exactly have alot of time either. Schedule is booked with activities with the kids, especially after school starts. I dunno....

[scorpioanne]

This is an interesting site with critiques of many direct sales companies as well as Mary Kay.

http://www.pinktruth.com/board/index.php

[mom2two]

That IS an interesting site. I just read the thread on Pampered Chef.
I was looking into Pampered Chef. I contacted their site and a consultant is supposed to reach me in a few days.
I just need something in my free time. And I love getting things free or at discount! (who doesn't?!)
Anyone with pros/cons on Pampered Chef? I'm sure there's always pros/cons for everything if you don't get those dang bookings...

[LeslieR]

I decided to sign up with Premier Designs. I am so excited and can't wait to get started. I went to my first training session last night which only made me even more pumped. The jewelry is gorgeous and affordable-I can't wait for my kit to get here so I can start wearing some pieces to show off! I designed some business cards the other day that I need to have printed. I'm planning on taking them to every single place I know of that has a bulletin board. I'm also advertising in my MOMS Club newsletter. The average PD party here in CT is around $700 and you make 50% of that. I will be ecstatic if I make a $1000 a month-DH would be happy with $500. My first goal is to pay off my fee and kit and then go from there. I signed up for the PD credit card so that all of my business will be in one place. The training last night was fantastic. A lot of good tips geared toward the Christmas season (starts in September, ya know!). The jewelry pretty much sells itself, so I think the main thing is getting bookings. There are no quotas, you don't HAVE to sign anyone up, no inventory required, etc. But, if I do, I get 10% commission from all of their sales. If they sign someone up, I get 10% commission on them, too. And if they sign someone up, I get 10% off of them, too! It goes 3 deep, but can continue sideways forever. The lady who is 2 up from me has been doing this for 5 years now and her commission checks are $5000-$6000 a month!:eek: She has over a hundred people under here. crazy!

Question about taxes-I've been saving every receipt for clothes, shoes, gas, etc. I'm going to contact our accountant this week to discuss all of this. The woman 2 up from me said that there is a fantastic tax break for small business owners. Do you write off everything? Mortgage, electricity, internet service, phone, etc., etc.? It feels so shady to me even though, I know it's not.:o

[mamax2]

Question about taxes-I've been saving every receipt for clothes, shoes, gas, etc. I'm going to contact our accountant this week to discuss all of this. The woman 2 up from me said that there is a fantastic tax break for small business owners. Do you write off everything? Mortgage, electricity, internet service, phone, etc., etc.? It feels so shady to me even though, I know it's not.

I've never heard of anyone in DS being able to write off clothes, shoes or a mortgage. *IF* you have a home office and can separate out the equipment and what percentage of your internet, phone and electricity is used specifically for your business, you can write that portion off. For the amount of money I make in DS, it's never been worthwhile to do all that though. My accountant advises keeping records for mileage (you can write-off mileage based upon a federally recognized rate), business supplies, postage and long-distance.

[LeslieR]

Really? That surprises me. If you buy clothes specifically for your work, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to write them off.:confused: I guess I better make sure to specifically ask our accountant about that one!

[LeslieR]

Well I got my answer on the clothes topic-you cannot write off clothing unless it's something you couldn't wear anywhere else but work (i.e. a uniform). My friend is a Body Shop At Home consultant and wears these really cute Body Shop shirts-I wonder if you can write something like that off as far as advertising goes?

As far as the house thing. I'm not clear on the mortgage aspect, but if you have a home office or dedicated space for your business, you can report that space. I need to get some clarification on this, though.

[Delaney21]

As far as the house thing. I'm not clear on the mortgage aspect, but if you have a home office or dedicated space for your business, you can report that space. I need to get some clarification on this, though.

I'm trying to remember from my tax class, but I think you have to estimate what portion of your house is used for the business (ex. 10%) then you have to depreciate that piece of the house as a business expense. I remember the instructor pointing out that if it is depreciated too much, you could wind up paying more taxes on your house when you decide to sell your house because you've depreciated that portion of it. But honestly, tax is definitely not my strong area so you would definitely want to talk to your tax person before you do anything.

[Smilin13]

I have perhaps an odd question as a consumer of DS.

Around March I had a Tastefully Simple party with a consultant. At that party I got at least one booking. My consultant worked it out so that I would have a $40 credit to use at the next party I went to.

Well my sister in law flaked on her party and I haven't had a chance to use my credit.

So I just emailed the consultant and I haven't heard anything back from her (it hasn't quite been a week yet). I'm starting to get worried that she quit selling or something and I'll have lost my $40 of credit.

I guess my question is, should I continue to be patient and see if she emails back, should I call the phone number that I have for her and see what is going on, or what?

Thanks
:)

[mamax2]

Smilin ~ I'd go ahead and give her a call, but I'd also be patient as it's summer time and people may still be on vacation, so a week isn't unreasonable. I don't really know anything about TS, but if the credit was specifically to be used at a future booking/party, I would think that unless that goes through, you'd be out the $40. For instance, I often do a special for my hostesses that if I book 2-3 parties off their show (depending on # of guests), I give them an add'l $25 gift AFTER all of those other shows have been completed. I'm paying for the gift out of pocket, so I can't afford to book parties and have the hostess flake, kwim? Maybe that's how it is for your credit too?

Leslie ~ Delaney is right. You have to estimate out the percentage of space in your home that's used for your business, then keep all your records for utilities, phone, etc. and use that same percentage (5%, 10% etc) and that's the deductible portion. Definitely talk to your tax advisor, but mine has always said it's just not worth it to go through all that. Even my director who makes tons more $$$ than I do at this doesn't go to that extreme. It's just one of those things that while it's legally available, the actual benefit to you *may* not be all that much. Again, definitely consult a tax advisor on your particular situation though.

eta: as for shirts, tote bags, etc. w/your company name/logo, that stuff definitely counts as business expenses!

[Smilin13]

Smilin ~ I'd go ahead and give her a call, but I'd also be patient as it's summer time and people may still be on vacation, so a week isn't unreasonable. I don't really know anything about TS, but if the credit was specifically to be used at a future booking/party, I would think that unless that goes through, you'd be out the $40. For instance, I often do a special for my hostesses that if I book 2-3 parties off their show (depending on # of guests), I give them an add'l $25 gift AFTER all of those other shows have been completed. I'm paying for the gift out of pocket, so I can't afford to book parties and have the hostess flake, kwim? Maybe that's how it is for your credit too?




*nods* Your right, I hadn't really thought about it being summer and possible vacations. I'll try and be patient. And then give her a call next week if I don't hear from her by then.

As for the credit, I'm open to the possibility that it won't happen. However, the credit was actually a result of my party sales. We actually bought all of our products that night to bump my party up to the next level, therefore giving me $40 more product....which I didn't use at the party, and was told I could use it at a later date. I was just planning on using it at my sister in laws party. And don't worry, I'm still pretty pissed at her for flaking out and I'm trying to guilt her into still doing it (if we can get a hold of the consultant).

Thanks for the info though.

[Smilin13]

Well, I'm glad I waited. My consultant emailed me back today. Seems the pesky task of giving birth had her out of commission for a few days :o
*laughs* I knew she was pregnant, but I thought she would have already given birth earlier this summer

Now, off to pick a day for my party :)

Thanks mamax2 for not letting me make a complete ass out of myself :cool:

[LeslieR]

I went to my first show with my sponsor on Friday night. It was so awesome.:D It took a larger amount of time than normal because we left really early for fear of traffic. The party started around 6:30 and was finished by 8. At least finished as far as the other people's orders. The hostess took FOREVER trying to figure out what free items she wanted, so that kept us there a lot longer than normal. The party was around $550 total, so my sponsor made $275 for just a few hours of work!:eek: (And I use the term 'work' very lightly because her presentation was only about 10 minutes long, maybe longer with questions from the guests.) We stopped for dinner on the way, so we get to write 50% of that off.;) I'm so excited and can't wait to get started. We're doing my kick off show 9/21. My sponsor does the show and I get the hostess benefits and the profit! PD pays her $200 for training me and she also gets 10% of my retail sales in commission from PD! I am so loving this company and I haven't even started yet!

[EmilyZA]

How is everyone doing? I am considering signing up with Two Sisters Gourmet (http://www.twosistersgourmet.com). I've posted here before that I had some bad luck with Creative Memories in the past, but I'm going to give direct sales another shot. I'm a mom now and would love to make some additional income that would eventually allow me to stay at home.

TSG is a gourmet food company. I love food so I think it's perfect for me. And the compensation program is great, IMO.

[May27JnJ]

Does anyone do Premier Designs?

[LeslieR]

Does anyone do Premier Designs?


I do! I just started and I love it so far. I had my training show last Friday. At your training show you are the consultant and the hostess, so you get the profit and the hostess benefits. My party totalled $1000, so I made $500. I hit all 4 bonuses, so I got $100 towards jewelry. And the 30% of $1000=$300 in free jewelry. So, in total, I made $500 and received $400 in free jewelry. I also got 8 items at 1/2 price.

I have 3 shows booked already and 4 other ladies who said they'd like to have a show. My goal is 2 shows a month. More would be great, obviously, but I just found out I'm pregnant and I'm not sure how tired I'm going to be (sometimes the shows can drag on late into the night if people are really chatty or if the hostess doesn't know what items she wants for herself and wants to close the show that day).

Let me know if you have any more questions-I'll do my best to answer them!:)

[udsweetpea]

Congratulations on your BFP, LeslieR!!!

[May27JnJ]

Yes congrats Leslie!!

I just had a really bad experience with PartyLite so I'm nervous about starting this up again. I love that you make 50% of sales!!

[LeslieR]

Thanks ladies!:)

The thing about PD, I think, is that it sells itself. The hostess benefits are so awesome that it's kind of hard not to want to have a show. My PD "grandma" (your sponsor is your "mom", your sponsor's sponsor is your "grandma") has been doing it for 5 years and she said she's never had a month where she didn't have a show booked. She now has over 140 people under her and makes six figures! Now, you don't HAVE to sign anyone up (which I really like because it's not a pyramid scheme). of course, if you do, you make 10% commission from anyone you sign up, anyone they sign up, and anyone they sign up (it only goes 3 deep, but it can go sideways forever). Once you start signing people up, you have to have a minimum of $300 in sales a month (hard not to do, I think). Otherwise, if you have no one under you, there are no minimums.

It is pricey to start, but I applied for the PD card and put it all on there. I expect to have it paid off in probably 1-2 more shows. You don't have to buy a kit, but it makes more sense to do so because if you buy jewelry piece by piece you'll never catch up and have an extensive inventory to present at your shows. And the really awesome thing is that it is YOUR jewelry! I make sure to wear pieces every time I leave the house because that's free advertising, ya know?

[May27JnJ]

How much is the kit if you don't mind me asking?

[LeslieR]

I don't have the exact figure in front of me, but it was like $300 for the initial start up and $800 for the jewelry kit. A lot, I know. Even just typing that out now, I can't believe I spent that much money. I can't explain it, though. I feel like I was just drawn to the business-sponsor is doing so well that I knew that I would, too. Again, you don't have to buy the kit. I'm sure you could do shows with just the catalogs and a few pieces. I sent my mom a catalog and 15 order forms to take to work with her. She got me $360 worth of orders and no one ever saw a single piece of jewelry!!!

I was going to put my $500 profit towards what I owe on my PD card, but I bought some more pieces of jewelry (I took the half off items that I earned, plus I bought some items from the Christmas catalog (1/2 price to me as the consultant + 30% off=I couldn't resist)). I also ordered some new catalogs and some show incentive gifts, so in total, I will be putting $400 towards my PD card. And then the next show, I'll put all of my profit towards that and so on until it's paid off. PD shows in this area average $700-$800, so I think I will have it paid off in two more shows. I'm not sure of the nationwide average or the average in your area, though. HTH!

[firefly]

I don't know if it's been mentioned on here but BeautiControl is a great direct sales company. It's not based on pyramids at all. You NEVER need to recruit anyone to make good money (so long as you sell) if you have people under you it helps (of course) and if you get 4 people signed up under you the first month(?) maybe 45 days you get to buy at 50% for life. you only have to do $500 in sales every 4 months and the sales is the 'listed' price not your price.

No I'm not a consultant. I simply can not do direct sales. but I convinced my sil to do it, (so I can buy product at a discount :P) and then my mil, and other sil signed up too.

and the kit until the 30th is only $99.

(if fluctuates depending upon what 'special' they are doing the kit ranges from $99 to $230 )

[May27JnJ]

I don't have the exact figure in front of me, but it was like $300 for the initial start up and $800 for the jewelry kit.

HOLY COW!!! :eek:

[jajacobsen]

Regarding tax deductibilty of certain expenses (yes I am a CPA):

Clothing: Only "uniform" type clothing that has no alternative use is deductible. For example, the smock that a Mary Kay rep might wear, with a Mary Kay logo embroidered on it is deductible. The apron that a Pampered Chef consultant might wear (if it has the Pampered Chef logo) is deductible. Non-uniform clothes, even if purchased specifically for this job are not deductible. So sort of think of a nurse. Nurses shoes and scrubs are deductible clothing expenses. But the bra, underwear, and even T shirt or turtleneck he/she wears under the scrubs are not deductible because they can be worn at othe times with other outfits. The are not specific to the occupation.

Mileage: Track your mileage (noting odometer readings and this is deductible using published IRS rates, currently (I believe, I always check) 48.5 cents per mile. Programs like Turbo Tax are always updated automatically.

Supplies and miscellaneous expenses: Supplies used during your sales presentations, whether or not purchased from the sponsoring company, are deductible. This will include postage and bank account fees, if you have a bank account dedicated to your business receipts (which is advisable), food, and gifts (prizes). Keep receipts.

Meals and entertainment: 50% of actual amounts are deductible. Keep receipts.

Home office: Telephone, etc addressed separately. This is a tricky, and for many years. a highly abused area, which has now made it a "red flag" which will cause your tax return to be audited, so many CPAs advise against taking this deduction. Basically for a portion of your home to be deducted (the deduction being a portion of the annual depreciation of teh purchase price of your house, a portion of the mortgage interest, a portion of the home insurance and taxes, utilities, etc) you must dedicate the space solely to your business and have no other use of it. Few direct sales consultants have a space which would pass this test. The types of areas which would pass the test are doctors or therapists which have dedicated "office" portions of their home; (which are never used during non-office hours), tradesmen who have their workshops in their homes; beauticians who have a shop in their home; or a massage therapist or personal trainer who have dedicated rooms/gyms in their homes and see clients in those spaces. I am a CPA. I work at home and at clients' offices. My home "office" is also used for personal space and is part of my home and not separate. I take no home office deduction. Possibly if you got to the point where you had a room or rooms in your house which you used as an office and only used to store product and your records there, that would qualify. A guest bedroom which you use as your office but in which your houseguests do stay from time to time and has a bed in it would not qualify.

I also do not take a deduction for my home computer because I use is as much for personal stuff as I do work stuff, and my husband uses it as well. However, a scanner I needed (and only use for) work is deductible as a Section 179 expense, as well as office supplies, etc. I do not deduct my DSL line as we would have had that expense anyway. Clients do not call me at home so I do not deduct my home phone. However, I do use my cell phone for personal and work. So I deduct 50% of it. Maybe I am conservative with respect to expenses but I have consulted other, more experienced CPAs and this seems to be a common approach. The amounts are relatively small (and so would not be much of a deduction) and NOT worth risking an audit.

Start up costs - Initial fees and starter packs are deductible as expenses in the year paid. Charging to a credit card is considered paid by the IRS.

Retirement savings - Thinking ahead to the future and optimistically, some of you will do so well that there will be excess profits and you may want to save for retirement and take the tax benefit of a deduction. There is a thread going on this in the Money Forum, but you can offset some of your profits with traditional or self employed IRA (or SEP or Keough) contributions, as long as you (but not necessarily your spouse, who may partcipate in employer retirement plans) are not a member of an employer-sponsored plan. I'm sorta thinking of this for LeslieR, since I know she is a SAHM, so I know she would qualify. Of course, your contributions are limited to your net profits, as determined when completing your return (too complicated to completely explain here). Your CPA should advise.

[mamax2]

Thanks, jajacobsen, that was a really nice, thorough explanation that I'm sure will be helpful for so many of the DS consultants here, especially those who are newer and/or don't currently work with a trusted CPA. It's nice to start out with some basic info. My CPA's advice is the same as yours and for the past 5 years, the only deductions I claim are for business supplies and kit add-ons. I don't even deduct my cell phone because I lump that in with my other job (real estate).


How are everyone's Fall bookings? :)

[LeslieR]

Wow, thanks for posting that jajacobsen! Very much appreciated.

I only hope I make enough that I can start an IRA.:D

Fall bookings-I have 2 shows in October and 1 in November. Plus I already have a person interested in signing up which I was totally not anticipating!

[jajacobsen]

Mamax2 - Thanks - no problem. I hope it is helpful to some of the newbies. There's a lot is mystery and misunderstanding as to what is and is not deductible, even to my own husband who tends to think EVERYTHING is deductible - (most recently: "no honey, the Garmin GPS is not a deductible expense for you as you are a W2 employee and it is not required by your employer" - LOL). I hope this information is helpful. Do you claim mileage? You might consider it - it is a totally legit deduction which can really add up. Maybe you are deducting mileage but just forgot to mention it. You don't have to answer here but if not, think about it. It's nice to know my advice lines up with that of your CPAs.

LeslieR - glad it could be of help and hope all goes well. I too hope you make enough taht you can open a Keough, etc and shelter all of your income from taxes. You do have to put quite a bit in savings but if REALLY reduces your tax bill. Keep in mind that if you have taxable incme this year, next year you will have to start making estimated state and federal quarterly tax payments. Again, turbo tax or your tax advisor can do the calculations.

[jeeplover]

(most recently: "no honey, the Garmin GPS is not a deductible expense for you as you are a W2 employee and it is not required by your employer" - LOL).


jajacobson: I have been thinking about buying a GPS and with you mentioning this above, would it be deductible for me (an AVON rep who delivers to her customers at their homes)?

[jajacobsen]

(most recently: "no honey, the Garmin GPS is not a deductible expense for you as you are a W2 employee and it is not required by your employer" - LOL).


jajacobson: I have been thinking about buying a GPS and with you mentioning this above, would it be deductible for me (an AVON rep who delivers to her customers at their homes)?

It COULD be. But to be completely correct you would have to allocate the cost between business and personal use. If you make quite a bit as an Avon rep, you might feel comfortable deducting the whole thing, especially if you use it primarily for Avon.. Since you are essentially self-employed with respect to Avon, you are teh boss and decide what is necessary.

But DH is a W2 employee and his boss has not required a GPS unit. So he cannot claim it as a business expense. Especially since I know he will use it at least as much for personal as business!

[jeeplover]

jajacobson:
I hate to keep bombarding you with questions but would it be safe to say I could deduct half of the cost since I would be using it probably half of the time for my AVON business?

Thank you so much!

[jajacobsen]

jajacobson:
I hate to keep bombarding you with questions but would it be safe to say I could deduct half of the cost since I would be using it probably half of the time for my AVON business?

Thank you so much!

That might be a fair way to estimate the usage. I would only feel comfortable doing so if my Avon mileage was fairly significant and I was generating taxable income from Avon. Without knowing the specifics of your return I am not qualified to definitely advise on this matter. I was merely trying to provide some general guidelines in the items I posted before.

[jeeplover]

That might be a fair way to estimate the usage. I would only feel comfortable doing so if my Avon mileage was fairly significant and I was generating taxable income from Avon. Without knowing the specifics of your return I am not qualified to definitely advise on this matter. I was merely trying to provide some general guidelines in the items I posted before.

You have helped me a great deal! As this is the first year I will have taxable income from AVON. Thank you so much as I was completely unaware of deductible items. This information is going to be of great use for me!

[jajacobsen]

Not directed at any particular poster - I would caution all to be very careful with respect to additional deductions. While certainly many might be legitimate, please always ask yourself "can I thoroughly document the cost of this item (as in receipt) and underlying business purpose of this deduction?" Keep good records!

[ladyjg]

I am loving this thread! I've been an Usborne Books at Home consultant since the end of January, and I love it. The company is fantastic, and I truly believe in the books. I felt drawn to UBAH after my DD received one of their "touchy feely" books as a Christmas present, and I'm grateful to my SIL who sent her that book. :) I love that there's no pressure with company (I'd like to build a team, but I don't have to), and I can do home parties/catalog orders as well as sell to schools and libraries. What I'm most excited to do is a Reach for the Stars reading program (fundraiser)! I've never felt like a salesperson, and I'm actually very shy, but somehow the idea of promoting literacy is bringing me out of my shell. A little bit, anyway. Baby steps. ;)

My goals for October are to start calling schools and libraries in my area, as well as to book some home shows. If I could get some booths at craft fairs, that'd be great too. I'm hoping that by contacting schools now, I might be able to do at least one reading program in the spring.

Thanks so much for the tax info, jajacobsen. I'm filing it all away for later use!

[firefly]

LADYJG don't forget preschools. our preschool has an ub consultant that does all the 'related' preschools. she comes 2 times a year for a 'book' fair. type deal.

Good luck.

[ladyjg]

Thank you, firefly! Some new preschools just opened up near us, so I should contact them! :)

[mamax2]

Do you claim mileage? You might consider it - it is a totally legit deduction which can really add up. Maybe you are deducting mileage but just forgot to mention it. You don't have to answer here but if not, think about it. It's nice to know my advice lines up with that of your CPAs.

Yes, I have claimed mileage in the past, but I did forget to mention it. I had about a 18 month stint when I was having a baby, building a new house, etc. where I *only* did catalog orders so I didn't have mileage then. I just started doing home parties again this summer. Thanks for the reminder though, I'll definitely make a note on my calendar w/the mileage next to the party date.

Another thing I've found helpful: get a credit card that issues an end of year statement. Put ALL your business expenses on the card. This way, if you've missed anything along the year, you'll have a nice, tidy record to pass along at tax time.

[bluebunny]

mamax2, you do Southern Living at Home, right? I think that's what you posted in the part-time job thread. (I read it several hours ago before putting kids to bed. :o ) Anyway, I have been considering it for awhile. I love the products and think they sell themselves. Do you find it is easy to get people to host parties? Do your parties translate into repeat customers? Any thoughts on why you like the company would be helpful. I love the idea of it but not sure I want to make the leap.

[mamax2]

bluebunny ~ Yes, I sell SLAH! I've been doing it for 5 years, so, yeah, I definitely like it :p I really just started it to get the stuff for myself at a discount, but it's been great fun money too.

What I like:

- The products are really high quality. I've never been disappointed in the way something has lasted.
- The versatility - so many pieces are made to be used in multiple ways, as decor, serving, etc.
- I really just like decorating, entertaining, etc. so it's a good fit for me. It doesn't feel sales-y to me, it's just the stuff I enjoy talking about.
- The company: it's a legitimate, trusted name (Southern Living, I mean), the commission structure is good (25% in retail sales), disounts great (40%), the company pays for business supplies like catalogs, promo items, order forms, etc., the company is constantly improving and trying to advance technically such as adding more online shopping capabilities, automated customer newsletters, etc., communication from the corporate level is good and, personally, my sponsor is great.

Repeat customers... sure there are definitely a handful of those. Even when I wasn't really doing home shows (like after I had my second baby), I could still rely on a few people to do catalog orders. However, I'll also mention that I've lived in 3 states in the last 5 years, so it's been a lot of starting over. It's a bit of 'out of sight, out of mind' and some of my customers that I cultivated while living in one spot for 2 years are totally gone now. It's a bummer, but it's just how this is.

There are some good specials right now for new consultants and this is the 'busy season' - it's a great time to start the business because with the holidays around the corner, you'll recoup your costs very quickly - most likely in 1-2 parties. It's totally worth a shot, IMO. Let me know if you have any other questions about the company or my experience. I'd be happy to tell you whatever I can. :)

[bluebunny]

Thanks, mamax2! A friend wants me to host a party, which I agreed to do, but I didn't know whether I should become a consultant now or think about it for next year. I've been considering it for a year now; I didn't want to do it with a newborn but now that DD is quickly approaching one, the timing is better. Would I be silly to host a party next month when I'm considering becoming a consultant?

[mamax2]

Would I be silly to host a party next month when I'm considering becoming a consultant?

Your situation is very similar to mine, I agreed to host a party and then decided to become a consultant instead! I'd become a consultant and then host your own party. You'll get the 25% commission PLUS all the hostess benefits. It'll be a great way to supplement and build your kit w/free & 1/2 price items for all your future parties. A $1000 party will totally recoup all your start-up costs. FYI, a $1000 party, for me, is roughly 15 orders.

The new consultant kit has some really nice pieces in it right now. I'd definitely encourage you to give it a try. The worst that that will happen is that you'll do a couple of parties, not like it and quit - you'll still have all the stuff! On the flip side, maybe you'll love it, earn some extra money, meet new people, etc. IMO, there's no down-side because it's really easy to recoup your start-up costs. It's truly just $199 - the company includes catalogs, order forms, etc.

Are you already working with a consultant/sponsor? If so, she can probably give you more information about what average parties are like in your area, how long it took her to become successful, how many parties she does, how much time she spends, etc. She can also show you the current promotions for new consultants (if you sell X amount in a certain number of days, you qualify for add'l free products). If you're not working with a sponsor, I'd be happy to send you a flier with those specials and such.

[mom2two]

Would I be silly to host a party next month when I'm considering becoming a consultant?

I'm thinking about this too.... I've been wanting to join Pampered Chef as a consultant. I'm nervous though because I was burned with another direct sales business before. Plus it's a really busy time right now (focusing alot on testing for my son). I have a consultant I've been going through for info, she's sent me packets, and I've scheduled a party myself, just to host. She thought it might not be a bad idea anyways so I can start to "stock up on things." Maybe I'll ask her that if anyone wants to host a party or if someone has questions like that, maybe she'll give it to me. My old sponsor with the other company did that for me once when I was training. I don't know. I hate to commit if it doesn't work out. Plus I still work 30+ days a week at another job. I'll see her Wednesday when we get together to go over the party stuff.

[bluebunny]

mamax2, thanks for your advice. I really needed another opinion.

Are you already working with a consultant/sponsor?

My friend who asked me to have the party is a consultant. When we talked about the party a few days ago, she admitted that she has not tried to "recruit" others to be consultants because she doesn't want to have to mentor anyone. I'm a little nervous to have her sponsor me. Anyway, I'm leaning towards becoming a consultant. I love most of the items in the kit and would make it my goal to recoup my costs and then reassess. Thanks!! :)

[mom2two]

Just a suggestion... when thinking about being a consultant somewhere, really look at the kit and see if the items are something you can use in your shows for a while. I was shocked when I spent the $150+ on my HGP kit and the next catalog, everything but the jar candles were retired. I guess you can always do "cash and carry", or discount them at your shows, but I was just shocked that you're expected to replenish every few months or so. Maybe I just joined at the "clean house" time.

[mamax2]

When we talked about the party a few days ago, she admitted that she has not tried to "recruit" others to be consultants because she doesn't want to have to mentor anyone. I'm a little nervous to have her sponsor me.

Ask if you can talk to her sponsor then. In all honesty, my first sponsor wasn't great. She was new to the business and working a full-time job, etc. I ended up letting my agreement lapse for a couple of months and signing up under HER sponsor who is a two-star director and just phenomenal. She always makes time for me and is great w/communication, brainstorming, etc. It's important to be on a team you feel comfortable with. If that's not with your friend, that's o.k. She might be relieved because coaching isn't for everyone. I laid low on that for a long time for similar reasons, I'm just now getting to the point where I'm really comfortable 'recruiting', kwim?

mom2two ~ That stinks that that happened to you, but unfortunately, I think that's probably happened to all of us :( Except for my starter kit, I don't buy anything I wouldn't want in my house, that way, if it's discontinued, at least I still have it for my own house! If you do end up with stuff you don't want/need, some ideas:

1) use them for raffles/giveaways
2) promotional item for your 'top hostess' or 'MVC (most valuable customer)' of the year, etc. Some people even do customer appreciation parties.
3) Keep your boxes! Check your company's policy on re-selling via online auctions (some allow it, others don't)
4) Join your company's online discussion group - they usually have trade/swap forums, either for the consultants themselves or someone's customer who's looking for a discontinued piece.

[mom2two]

Those are good ideas. I mean, if most of your customers are return clients (or even if they just love the merchandise) they'll want to collect or get something else discounted. It just sucked because if I continued with it, I would've had to replenish my WHOLE KIT!
I'm really thinking about Pampered Chef, but I'm SO nervous. I don't want to start it and then get stuck without bookings. I REALLY want to do it. I'm just nervous to get "no"s or rolls of the eyes. I don't want to be stranded.

[EmilyZA]

I'm really thinking about Pampered Chef, but I'm SO nervous. I don't want to start it and then get stuck without bookings. I REALLY want to do it. I'm just nervous to get "no"s or rolls of the eyes. I don't want to be stranded.
I'm in the same boat, b/c I'm about to sign up with Two Sisters Gourmet, and I was a Creative Memories consultant in the past and had a poor experience. You should find out PC's buyback policy-- I think that if they're a member of the Direct Selling Association, they have to give consultants the option to sell back 90% of their inventory/business tools within a year of signing up.

[mom2two]

EmilyZA I saw the Direct Selling Assoc. logo on the pamphlet, so I think they are members. The kit seems made up of original pieces, maybe some odds and ends that are newer. But they are ALL usable, which I love. I mean, I wouldn't be stuck, but I'd hate not being able to get bookings. I'm just afraid of that. I NEVER got a booking through Home and Garden Party except the 6 parties that family/friends had. Nobody booked off of those. I have a few more contacts now with my kids in school, my son in martial arts, and being involved in the church, but I don't want to be "that lady" that sells stuff and bothers people. I don't know what I did wrong. My consultant with PC is very upbeat and could motivate anyone, I'm sure. She has a meeting with her team next weekend, so I might go to see what they're doing. But one of the girls RSVPd (on evite) and said that she can't wait for the meeting because she has NO bookings and needs tips. You can't force people...

[EmilyZA]

EmilyZA I saw the Direct Selling Assoc. logo on the pamphlet, so I think they are members. The kit seems made up of original pieces, maybe some odds and ends that are newer. But they are ALL usable, which I love. I mean, I wouldn't be stuck, but I'd hate not being able to get bookings. I'm just afraid of that. I NEVER got a booking through Home and Garden Party except the 6 parties that family/friends had. Nobody booked off of those. I have a few more contacts now with my kids in school, my son in martial arts, and being involved in the church, but I don't want to be "that lady" that sells stuff and bothers people. I don't know what I did wrong. My consultant with PC is very upbeat and could motivate anyone, I'm sure. She has a meeting with her team next weekend, so I might go to see what they're doing. But one of the girls RSVPd (on evite) and said that she can't wait for the meeting because she has NO bookings and needs tips. You can't force people...
I know exactly what you mean. I have some similar fears... as a CM consultant, I probably did two or three parties. BUT... I was young at the time (22 or 23) and most of my friends had little to no interest in scrapbooking. I liked to scrap, but I wasn't super passionate about it (it's easier to sell something you're enthusiastic about.) Plus, now I have a huge goal-- to do something so I can eventually stay at home with my son. So I think that's pushing me to do something.

I think if you think of all those things-- why you want to do this, and why you specifically want to sell PC, it will help. Plus, if you get past the whole idea of "selling," and think more about helping people by making their life easier with kitchen tools, it may help you step out of your comfort zone.

Maybe we can stay in touch and keep each other motivated!

[mom2two]

Maybe we can stay in touch and keep each other motivated!
That'd be FANTASTIC!

I know what you mean by the "reasons" we go for it. I tried Avon when I was about 20-21, and Home and Garden Party just 2 years ago, but really, I'd LOVE to stay home with my kids too. I stayed at home for 3 years and by the time my youngest was about 9 months, I couldn't do it anymore. I got part-time at Subway and worked about 4 days a week. However, now I'm an "unofficial" assistant manager, work about 30 hours in 5 days (no biggie), but with the responsibilities there, I feel tied. I'd feel bad about leaving again (I left for about 3 months to try out my old job in accounting at a hotel, but I couldn't be away from the kids too long). I have some trouble with my son (special needs) in preschool and need the flexibility. However, my kids come first, so to have one guy pissed at me, I guess I can live with. I respect my boss alot and like him, but if this works out, I'm done!:p I just don't want to get my hopes up and be "over it" in a year again.

[EmilyZA]

I'll pm you with my email!

[mamax2]

I don't want to start it and then get stuck without bookings. I REALLY want to do it. I'm just nervous to get "no"s or rolls of the eyes. I don't want to be stranded.

Some ideas for you...

- Book parties now, even before you have your kit so you can breath easy and know you have yourself covered

- You mentioned preschool, why not offer yourself up to do a fundraiser for the school? When my DD was in daycare, they did a PC fundraiser.

- You have to stay in regular contact with people. You'll be surprised how many people won't commit to a party but will easily order stuff from you on a regular basis.

- Have parties at your house - you can either keep the benefits or have a 'Mystery Hostess' night where one of the party attendees randomly gets chosen to receive all the hostess benefits at your party. This is a great motivator for people who like the products but don't want the effort of hosting a party.

[mom2two]

Those are great ideas! Actually, my kids preschool was just looking for a fundraiser for a new playground, and all I could think of (pre-PC business thoughts) was how I've seen sales for jar candles, like from HGP or Home Interiors. I wonder what PC does for fundraisers...
I like the idea of the mystery hostess night. I'd not mind having my own parties every 2-3 months, as long as I'm dead with no bookings.
I really want to get started now, but I told my consultant that it was depending on if my son gets a bad diagnosis from his psych. I don't want to be stuck with too much and not enough vocus on DS. Of course, I work 30+ hours too, so that doesn't help.

[mamax2]

I just have to vent for a second...

I have a party tomorrow night. This started off back in JUNE with two parties - one July, one September - for a mother & daughter. The July party wanted to postpone, then eventually merged her party with her Mom's so instead of two parties, I end up with one - tomorrow night.

I got them all their hostess materials several weeks ago. I've been calling and e-mailing my contact (the daughter) for the past week to talk about her party and couldn't get a response. FINALLY, I get an e-mail from her last night which included a list of about a dozen additional items she'd like me to bring. They want to 'see more stuff'. O.k., my products are often breakable and my load already requires 3 trips to the car. I also don't have most of the items she requested :o

Then, she tells me she's also having a jewelry salesperson there. IME, joint parties equal about 1/2 the profit. People have a budget and if there are two product lines, they're going to split their purchases accordingly.

So, basically she wants me to put in twice the effort (in terms of set-up/tear-down) and make half the money. UGH - I'm so ticked.

[mom2two]

Then, she tells me she's also having a jewelry salesperson there.

OMG! I can't believe there are two parties in one. Why would they do that? That doesn't seem right at all!:mad:

I also don't have most of the items she requested

Ugh, I hate that! When I did HGP, everyone wanted to see certain figurines or what the swags look like. Or they'd have questions, like "what does this look like? How big is it?" Like I really have every item in a catalog with me.

Good luck with your party. They don't all come easy, I guess....:(

[EmilyZA]

mamax2: I'm sorry. That stinks. My friend is going to a multi-vendor party, I guess they're popular now. I think the same thing, that customers will end up spending less. :( Good luck.

I signed up with Two Sisters Gourmet! I am holding my launch party next Saturday!

[bluebunny]

mamax2, that's so frustrating! I think it's pretty awful of her to book another salesperson without consulting you. Maybe a lot of people will show up and be in the Christmas shopping mood. :)

[mom2two]

that's so frustrating! I think it's pretty awful of her to book another salesperson without consulting you. Maybe a lot of people will show up and be in the Christmas shopping mood

That's true. It's like a "Christmas shopping party".:) I've just never heard of different vendors at a party. Just at those craft shows and everything...

[LeslieR]

mamax2, that sucks! I guess people don't realize this is your job and you're doing it to make money. Please let us know how things go!

I'm doing a multiple vendor party next week-Premier Designs (me), Body Shop At Home, and anna william Handbags. The other two consultants are friends of mine. The hostess is the anna william consultant. Obviously I hope to make some money, but at this point the experience is what I need mostly!

I have my first show tomorrow and I am so nervous! Thankfully DH is off today and tomorrow so I can work on getting organized and prepared without DS hanging on me. I finally broke down and ordered a manequin on ebay last week, but it's not here yet, so I'm freaking out about that, too. I can use guests as models, but I think I'll feel more comfy with the manequin. ugh. I can't wait til it's over (and then I can beat myself up about all of the things I should have done differently:rolleyes: ). Wish me luck, please!!!

[mamax2]

Emily & Leslie,

Good luck on your parties in the upcoming week!

I can't wait til it's over (and then I can beat myself up about all of the things I should have done differently )
5 years later and I STILL do that! ;)

That's true. It's like a "Christmas shopping party". I've just never heard of different vendors at a party. Just at those craft shows and everything...

Here's hoping! I've been part of multi-vendor shows before too (BTW, that's a great school fundraiser!) and it works because of the sheer volume of people. If traffic is 100+ people, your sales are still o.k., plus, you're not having to prepare a presentation or anything in that situation so it's a little lower-key. However, in the home show format, where you're getting 15-20 guests, having another consultant there really cannibalizes on your sales.

I'll report back tomorrow with the results!

[Graffy]

I'm new in the direct sales biz! Just sent in my contract for Premier Designs, like Leslie! My training show is Nov. 5th. I'm excited, but I have to admit I'm really nervous about getting bookings because I'm not really a big go-getter. I can tell most of my friends/family aren't thrilled with the idea of jewelry parties by the looks on their faces when I tell them what I'm selling, but hopefully they'll change their minds...

Good luck to all!

[mamax2]

The dual party actually went quite well! I'm at about $1300 in sales and should have some additional outside orders over the weekend. I'm hoping to top the $1500 mark to make it my best home party ever! :D

Actually, the biggest problem/challenge was how LONG the party took. Once I finish my presentation, I'm used to things kind of moving along, but tonight, since there was jewelry in another room, everyone kind of detoured that way and it added about 1 hour to my total time. I don't think it affected sales volume though. A lot of people were doing holiday shopping, for sure.

Also, the jewelry consultant didn't do a presentation of any sort, just display and catalogs. They kept the product lines in separate rooms too. I think they knew they kind of pulled a fast one on me because when I walked through the door they immediately started saying how "I'm so nice and wouldn't be mad at them" and I'm "K's friend so I wouldn't care", etc.

NO bookings, which surprised me since it's getting close to the holidays. But I did get invited to participate in one of those school fundraisers I mentioned a few posts back and I have a 'maybe' for January. We'll see!

[LeslieR]

Graffy, congrats! We'll have to swap tips!

mamax2, that is fantastic!!! Way to go! How many guests were there? I've been wondering if I should do a presentation at the multi show I'm doing next week or not. I know the Body Shop At Home consultant will do one, but not the anna william. I don't want to prolong the show any more than it needs to be!

[mamax2]

mamax2, that is fantastic!!! Way to go! How many guests were there? I've been wondering if I should do a presentation at the multi show I'm doing next week or not. I know the Body Shop At Home consultant will do one, but not the anna william. I don't want to prolong the show any more than it needs to be!

Thanks! There were 15 guests and 2 hostesses (mother/daughter co-hosted). If I were you, I'd try to coordinate with the Body Shop consultant and each do a very brief (like 10 min) presentation. I think 15-20 minutes is about all you'll get people for. Your other option is no presentation at all, but if I were you, I wouldn't want the other consultant to get to do her schtick, but not you, kwim? Plus, you're new and this is a great opportunity to practice!

eta: I'd also set really clear time lines with the hostess, like guests arrive at 7:00, first presenter from 7:30-7:40, second one from 7:45-7:55, orders from 8-9:30, etc. It's so important to have a hostess who can keep things moving along!

[LeslieR]

How's everyone doing???

I've held my first and second shows since I last posted. the first I was not really happy with at all. I had a small turn out of neighbors who were very chatty. I had the show all planned out in my head and it went nothing like that, of course! We still haven't closed out the show, but I will be surprised if I even make $200.

Last night's show was the multi-vendor. Ironically, the show went a lot better as far as the presentation goes, but the sales were worse than the first! The hostess has some orders from her mom taking the catalog to work, so it may not be all that bad. This party was mostly moms from my MOMS Club who had just been to a show last month, one had just been to a show last week, another is having a show in November. There were two guests there that I did not know and one of them had just been to a show last week! Anyway, I used notecards last night to remind myself what I wanted to say and do and that helped tremendously. We played a fun "fashion game" and I gave out raffle tickets. the last ticket to be given was if anyone wanted to book a show and no one did, so I didn't even bother playing the booking game I had planned on playing at the end. I'm struggling with getting bookings and thought that game would help, but it was just the wrong crowd.

Next week is the last party I have booked.:eek: I'm hoping that one is going to be a good turn out full of people who've never been to a show. I HAVE to get some bookings that night. If I don't, I don't know how I'm going to keep this thing going! I'm thinking I'm going to have to go ahead with a mystery hostess open house here before Thanksgiving and sell whatever pieces I have right off the table (and order pieces, too, for those who want to). I'll provide wrapping paper and gift bags. Has anyone ever done anything like this? I also want to start giving out wish lists that guests can fill out and I can mail to their spouses. Anyone ever do this?

Any tips, suggestions, or words of encouragment would be wonderful.;)

[bluebunny]

mamax2, glad the party went well!

Leslie, what you have described is what I'm afraid of if I decide to become a consultant. :o
I think the suggestion of a mystery hostess is wonderful and I love your idea of supplying wrapping paper and gift bags. The gift list idea is good, too. Any way you can email it to the spouses?
It sounds like you have the motivation and drive to be successful at this. :)

[mamax2]

I ended up closing that party at $1594. I had a talk with my sponsor this week and I just need to ante up and make some customer care calls next week and BOOK BOOK BOOK!!! I *hate* doing these follow up calls because it feels so desperate, but if I can turn just 2 of them into parties, I'll be o.k. for November.

Leslie ~ I know that some of the ladies buying jewelry at the party I was at were buying it for teacher gifts. I don't know if you have an 'in' with anyone at PTA or friends w/school-age children, but maybe you can work that angle?

Another consideration is to offer to do a fundraiser for an organization you love. You won't make much, but maybe you'll meet a whole new set of people. I'm doing a fundraiser for Leukemia & Lymphoma Society right now. It was last minute so it's only a catalog show, but maybe I'll turn up something, right? I'm trying to be hopeful. :)

[bluebunny]

mamax2, how do you do a party as a fundraiser? Donate a certain amount of your proceeds?

[mamax2]

mamax2, how do you do a party as a fundraiser? Donate a certain amount of your proceeds?

You can do it that way or just a flat amount, depending on who it's for, sales estimates, etc. For this particular fundraiser, I'm donating my entire commission (it's a cause I support annually anyway) and I'm keeping the hostess benefits. So, I won't make any money, but I'll get some stuff and *fingers crossed* I will try to book a follow-up party off one of the customers.

[EmilyZA]

Hi everyone!

I have my launch party tomorrow and I only have THREE people coming. :( I'm not too concerned though, I'm not going to get down about it b/c at this point there isn't much I can do. I do have two parties booked in November and am hoping to do well from them.

I also have a potential presentation at a real estate office this week, to present to the realtors about how our gift sets make wonderful client gifts!

I have quite a few friends who've said they'll book parties but haven't gotten back to me with a date yet... I don't want to be pushy about it, but I really want to start getting these bookings, especially since this is a huge shopping time! Any ideas to push this along?

Leslie: My launch will be a Mystery Hostess party. Here's how I'm doing it:

What is a Mystery Hostess?
It is your chance to win hostess benefits (free food items and half off items) on the total sales at this show and all you have to do is show up!

Earn tickets for the drawing by:
Being first to RSVP - 3 chances
RSVP before Oct. 24 - 1 chance
Attend show - 1 chance
Be on Time - 1 chance
Bring a friend not on my list - 2 chances/each friend
Every $10.00 purchased - 1 chance
Book your own home party - 3 chances
Become a consultant - 5 chances

Fundraisers: For those of you considering fundraisers, see if your company has a program in place already. Ours does-- the org. gets 50% of the profit on the day that it closes (they basically have people give them cash or write a check to them, and then they write me a check for 50%.)

[Smilin13]

Well, it is almost official. I'm going to start selling Tastefully Simple products. I haven't "officially" signed up, but I have my kick off party set up for Nov. 17th. My consultant, is helping me out and once I have the party, I'll sign up and it will basically work out to my first party being equal to my sign up fee.

I feel good about this first party, it is a joint hostess party. My sister in law and mother in law are going together to host the party. I only have to have a $500 party to cover my start up costs. I'm pretty confident that this party is going to be big. I also have a few other people who will book parties.

I was initially not going to sign up till after the holidays, but my consultant and her upline brought out this great idea to start my career this way, so I'm on my way!!!!

I'm a little nervous about starting, but I think it will all work out in the end.
I'm sure I'll be back to let you all know how things go.

Kristy :)

[LeslieR]

mamax2, that is a fantastic party you had! I know what you mean about calling people to book shows. I DO NOT want to do that. I had several friends tell me they wanted to book a show and I sent out an email with our latest promotion and dates that I have available-no one replied. It's almost like you HAVE to call people which sucks. I've been told if you call 40 people, you'll get 10 bookings. Who the hell wants to call 40 people??? Thanks for the tip on teacher gifts. I hadn't thought about working that angle!
Emily and Smilin-good luck at your shows!

Fundraisers-in PD, it's up to the consultant how she wants to donate. My MOMS Club had a show in September that my Premier Grandma (that's how they refer to your upline-mom, grandma, etc.) did and she was donating profit depending on bookings. I can't remember how she did it, but it was something like 3 bookings=30% of her profit, 4 bookings=40%, 5 bookings=50%.

Emily, thanks for your mystery hostess explanation! I'm going to save that for when I start to work on my show. I'm thinking maybe I will do it in December instead when people are really needing to shop.

[EmilyZA]

I had my launch party today, and I only had three attendees, but I'm not down about it. My sales were about $155, which wasn't bad for three people, considering the average party of 12-16 is $300! I also got one booking.

I have a party on Friday and at least 10 people are attending, so I'm excited about that!

It was great b/c I was able to test even more of my products today and they were SOOO good. I'm so glad I decided to sign up with TSG!

[mom2two]

Cool, that's great Emily!

I've decided to sign up with Avon. I go over my friend's house Monday night for paperwork. I was just too nervous to try to get bookings. I'm motivated one minute, and worrying the next. And the Pampered Chef consultant wasn't getting back to me. After I told her I didn't want to sign up with Pampered Chef (but I still have a personal party in a few weeks), she hasn't even emailed me about the party or what I should do to prepare or anything!

[mamax2]

I have quite a few friends who've said they'll book parties but haven't gotten back to me with a date yet... I don't want to be pushy about it, but I really want to start getting these bookings, especially since this is a huge shopping time! Any ideas to push this along?

When my sponsor and I had a coaching session last week, she reminded me that there are 3 reasons people book parties (in this order she said, but I'm not so sure...):
1) It seems like fun
2) They want free stuff
3) To help you out

SO, with your friends and family, you obviously want to work angle #3 - tell them how much you need their help and just start suggesting dates. I agree, it does feel 'pushy', but ya gotta do what ya gotta do!

Like my sponsor says, it's so much harder to book a party after the fact so it's good motivation to really push yourself to book at the show. I do ask every customer if they want to have a party though. Most people are just so wishy washy.

Emily ~ Congrats on your launch! Maybe you can collect some outside orders before you close?!

smilin & mom2two ~ Good luck w/your upcoming ventures.

[mom2two]

Any Avon reps with ideas on how to get "out there"? I just signed up again. I was selling it just before we got married, about 7 years ago, but only for a few months. I lived in an apartment at the time and only sold to my mom, sister, and grandma, some odd friends here and there, and what I made I basically bought in product myself! :p Anyhow, I signed up again and am SO excited! This is my first campaign. My sponsor said she puts them in mail/newspaper boxes in neighborhoods around her, so I did that with extra catalogs they supplied me with. I have more I could send out somewhere before the orders go in next week. Or I could set a few in the locker room at they gym I just joined too. I just didn't know what others do that seems successful or promising. I know it can't happen overnight (or you're real lucky!), and I'm in no way getting discouraged. It's cheap to join and I'm sure it'll build as I get them passed around. Any suggestions?

[jeeplover]

Congrats on rejoining AVON momoftwo! I have been an AVON rep for 2 years now (just had my 2nd anniversary last week).

I have not had much success in putting brochures on/in people's mailboxes ( I might get one customer from putting out 60 brochures). Alot of my customers either come from putting them directly on the doorknob or from my website.

Putting brochures in the locker room of your gym might be good but also I see that you have kids (can't see their ages while I am replying) but if you are part of a mom's group or they go to preschool you could do a fundraiser and then people would know you sell AVON and you could gain customers that way.

I hope that helps out some! Also there is a thread for just AVON reps on here as well so that might be a good place to find more information.