TTC #2 soon?

[kiki61872]

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kiki I sure hope that your temp rise this AM was your O. Even if the timing wasn't right this time it'll help you get it right next time.




well no deals. i had a higher than normal temp yesterday but today its down again. i was wishfully thinking i was having a slow rise in temp to indicate O but guess i was wrong........................

[Winter Biscuit]

Thanks for all the congrats and well wishes. It hasn't really hit me yet. I called my doctor today and I am going in on Friday June 9 for the initial 2-hour appointment. I'll be 6 weeks then :eek: It just seems surreal.

I completely understand the feelings that some of you acknowledged about being excited, yet still feeling frustrated that it's not your turn yet. Believe me, I've been there. I think your feelings are totally normal. After all, we're only human! The last 6 months, it seems like everyone I know announced their pregnancy and/or birth of their child(ren), and while I was thrilled for them, I so wanted it to be ME and MY turn. I hope everyone that is waiting for a BFP gets one very soon! I'll keep you all in my thoughts and do my best to send to send baby dust your way :)

[Bucktown]

Thanks WB! Well wishes on your pg again.

Jenjen I would highly recommend OPK's. For me, not only did they show me I was O-ing later than I thought, but they curb my addiction to pee on something else. I think I'm gonna go pee on one now just for fun! ;)

Kiki darn. I was hoping you'd get another rise today.

lady I suppose I didn't realize how fun my 2 (male) sibs were till later in life. I'm really hoping not to hear alot of "I hate you's " when the next one arrives. Lord knows I've said it hundreds of times. :rolleyes:


DO WE HAVE ANY TESTERS OUT THERE???? I know Lady and I are close but anyone else????? I had a temp drop today but know AF won't come for at least 4 more days. Should I be so crazy to allow myself to think implantation dip? Tomorrow, if my temp jumps up again I'll be POAS that AM. Oh man, what a let down this will be!

[jenjen0713]

Jenjen I would highly recommend OPK's. For me, not only did they show me I was O-ing later than I thought, but they curb my addiction to pee on something else. I think I'm gonna go pee on one now just for fun! ;)



LMAO....I laughed so hard that I almost peed my pants. Too bad I didn't have a stick with me, so I could have peed on that! :p

[lady1297]

Well, peeing on a stick got to me...I peed got a negative. Not too shocking as I'm only 9 DPO, so it's way too soon for me...I'll try again on the second of the month if AF doesn't come before that.

[kiki61872]

Thanks WB! Well wishes on your pg again.

Jenjen I would highly recommend OPK's. For me, not only did they show me I was O-ing later than I thought, but they curb my addiction to pee on something else. I think I'm gonna go pee on one now just for fun! ;)

Kiki darn. I was hoping you'd get another rise today.

lady I suppose I didn't realize how fun my 2 (male) sibs were till later in life. I'm really hoping not to hear alot of "I hate you's " when the next one arrives. Lord knows I've said it hundreds of times. :rolleyes:


DO WE HAVE ANY TESTERS OUT THERE???? I know Lady and I are close but anyone else????? I had a temp drop today but know AF won't come for at least 4 more days. Should I be so crazy to allow myself to think implantation dip? Tomorrow, if my temp jumps up again I'll be POAS that AM. Oh man, what a let down this will be!


good luck!
hoping for an implantation dip!!!!!!

[Bucktown]

DS made it absolutely impossible for me to get an accurate temp this morning. He woke at 2:15AM & was up till 4 AM. DH did his best to get him back down but all he kept repeating was 'mama mama mama'. I usually temp at 5:15AM since DS usually wakes between 5:30-5:45 but since our angel had other plans, I didn't temp till around 6:10A I think. Plus, I was half awake/half asleep till that time that I can't count on it. I entered it in FF but discarded it. It was 98.37.

On the other hand; I've been fooling around with my Answer OPK's. I had bought them the day I got my + and once you open the bottle of test strips you have to use them within 30 days. Starting at 9DPO I began peeing on them (one each day). So this morning I POAS and the line is darker than yesterdays, which was darker than the day before. I took pics of them to show you girls (for obsessions sake) and they are blurry & you can't really see the slight gradual darkening.

I would much rather pee on these things than see that BFN. It's been a fun study even if it turns into nothing. :D I'll try again with the pics to see if I could capture it. Anyone have any suggestions on how to do this???

[Brink]

Hi ladies,

Well, AF took forever to go away this month. I am CD8 and she is finally gone. I O'd on CD4 last month (according to the OPK), so I may have already missed my window. I took one this morning and the second line was there but only about 1/2 as dark as the control line. I'm getting tired of trying to figure out what is dark enough. I've looked for the smiley face ones and have not seen them at the store. I'll have to look at different places.

Congrats Winter Biscuit

Crossing my fingers for you Bucktown and Lady!

[jenjen0713]

Bucktown, Lady and Sebski - Where are all of you??? Are you all testing this week??? (Sorry if I missed anyone else who might be testing!)

Brink - Do you have a Walgreens where you live? That is the only place I've found the smiley face ones.

I broke down and bought some OPKs off ebay. They might be here in time for me to use them next week. Yea for me!! DH is working sun up to sun down during the summer months (he is a teacher and during the summer he does roofing/construction work). We might have to be looking into the nooner or some early morning lovin' since he is too exhausted when he gets home.

[Bucktown]

Bfn :(

[jenjen0713]

Bucktown - You know what they say...it ain't over yet. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed and sending good vibes your way! :)

[Winter Biscuit]

I'm sorry about the disappointment, Bucktown. I'll keep my fingers crossed that next month WILL BE your month! :)


Brink - to add on to what jenjen0713 said about Walgreens...if you don't have one near you, you can probably order the smiley face HPTs online via www.walgreens.com if you know the exact name of them. I've never used them myself, but i'm sure the ladies of CC could give you the exact brand/name :)

[kiki61872]

bucktown - maybe you tested too soon. its not over til AF rears her ugly self!!!


as for me - i'm still waiting to O. DH started nite shift this week so i'm just wishing for my O and AF so i can move on to the next cycle.
with him working - i feel like i'll never get pg!!! at least this summer anyways.
however, i'm still contemplating the 'nooner' idea.... :rolleyes:


ETA:
on a happier note, since i cant celebrate an O - i can celebrate that i now weigh 1lb. lighter than before DD. i just weighed myself - yeahoooo

[lady1297]

Still BFN...but I have a few more days until AF should arrive, so it ain't over just yet. I still have a lot of CM for this time of the month, but my mood is bottoming out (PMS) and I'm tired (PMS).

kiki-CONGRATS on the weight loss! Isn't that fun!! :)

[Sebski]

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[Bucktown]

FF changed my O date this morning. :( Now it says I O'd on cd18. That makes me 12DPO today which makes it 2 MORE long days till AF arrives. Suxy suxy suxy. :(

Sebski I have a great story re: high FSH #'s that my Aunties told me this past weekend. I'll come back when DS takes his nap cause I can't keep deflecting him from the computer right now!

[kiki61872]

FF changed my O date this morning. :( Now it says I O'd on cd18. That makes me 12DPO today which makes it 2 MORE long days till AF arrives. Suxy suxy suxy. :(



i dont know - i still say you O'd on cd 16 to me with a slow rise.


sighhhhhhhhhhhhhh i'm so ready for this cycle to be over.
i relly want to call the doctor so i can get this cycle wrapped up with something to make me get AF. but in reality it probably hasnt been long enough.


O or AF - for crying out loud i gotta do something down there! i'm paranoid i'm going to get AF unexpectedly so i keep running to the bathroom!!!

[Bucktown]

kiki If I give you my AF will that work? ;) I just sent an email to FF asking why the date change. I don't get it either. Hoping the give me good info.

I was completely ready to let this go as of yesterday. My body has been giving off super strange signals and after the BFN yesterday I just assumed that I was dying & not PG. I have been getting crazy dizzy & nauseous to the point where I feel I'm going to hit the ground. When I saw the temp drop this AM I thought, great AF will be here soon & I can concentrate on next cycle. I entered in my info, FF changes the date, the temp drop looks like it could be a very late implantation dip, hope is restored. I'm pretty sure I have 14 day LP's, but who the heck knows. Now I have to impatiently wait for tomorrow's temp to either get excited or relieved. THIS JUST BLOWS! I'm not cramping anymore just dizzy & nauseous. :confused:


Sebski My story re: high FSH #'s. This took place aound 8 yrs ago so I'm positive that fertility medicine has changed dramatically. My Auntie (45 at the time) wanted to get pg with her first child. <I know, crazy late for that decision, IMO> she went thru all the testing which came back that her FSH was 12 and the doc told her best way to go was IUI, then IVF. After a few tries, it didn't happen so she turned to her sister (my other Auntie) to donate eggs. She was 42 at the time. Her blood work revealed an even HIGHER FSH number, like 15, and her doc told her she wasn't a good candidate for donoring. What she heard was "I can't get PG anymore" so her & her husband celebrated by DTD. 2 weeks later she was PG. :p Has a beautiful 8 year old today.


ETA: FF told me I had a setting wrong. :o Waiting for AF.

[Bucktown]

Anyone stalking charts this morning? What do you think of my temp this AM?

[jenjen0713]

Did I hear someone mention stalking??

Bucktown - I like that temp!! Of course I have no willpower, so I say test, test, test!!

[Bucktown]

JenJen! I just peed on an OPK & I'm pretty sure it's positive. I have NO PG tests and I'm scared to death to get one & test.

please please please don't let this be a joke, God!!!!

[lady1297]

Oh, Bucktown, I hope it's right. Damn I wish I had temped this month!!! I gotta get back in that habit!!!

[HGMorgann]

Bucktown, your temp jump looks LOVELY. Go get a HPT!

[jenjen0713]

Bucktown - Go get one!!! I sooooo hope this is it for you!! :D

[Sebski]

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[HGMorgann]

AF arrived for me 3 days early. I knew (unless DH had some super-marathon swimmers) we were probally out for the mo...but still it stinks.

[Bucktown]

Sorry for the suspense girls. I did get a test this morning. It's VERY questionable. I know they say a line is a line but this was rediculously light. Like you have to hold it just the right way to see a glimpse of it. DH sees it though so I know it's not my eyes playing tricks on me.

So, I suppose we wait. If that was an implantation dip on 13 DPO then I wouldn't expect to see a clear line till tomorrow anyways & that would be pushing it too I think.

Hope I can get some sleep to get an accurate temp in the AM.

Personals tomorrow. I'm beat!

[lady1297]

Well, I'm hoping this morning is a happy one, Bucktown!

I'm done guessing-AF showed this morning. I'm dealing with it okay. Just a bit sad. Refocusing on nxt month. I think I'm going to schedule Grandmas weekend on the closest to ovulation. Maybe we need some personal time.

[Bucktown]

lady sorry to hear about AF. :(

HGMorgann AF=suxs. Why is that witch stalking this group is week???


Tested this morning (after a temp drop) and got another just as ambiguous result as yesterday's. I'm thinking we're seeing an evaporation line. Totally sucks. Maybe it's the tests I bought, I don't know. It's really wreaking havoc on my (our) emotions right now. :(

[lady1297]

Bucktown: Sorry to hear that your not getting the good solid line. Maybe wait a few more days and try another test? When is AF due?? I think your chart indicates SOMETHING...

[Bucktown]

Lady AF was due yesterday or today latest. So far, nada. The test I took this AM, you can see the line better than yesterday but you still have to hold it in correct light. I looked at the box, it's CVS, & says comparable to First Response. Isn't there 2 types of FR? One for early detection & one that is for after missed AF? Ugh.

I'm going to try another OPK in about an hour. I went to Walmart this morning for 2 Equate's for tomorrow AM. Many girls on FF said Equate can detect 7 miu/hcg????

Today, it's 90 degrees +. Our central air is not functioning correctly. We're on the top floor on a 4 fl condo bldg. It's hot. My temp will surely be off tomorrow AM.

Mr. HVAC man, will you please come fix my AC?

[jmvan74]

Just wanted to drop in and see if anymore congrats were in order!
Bucktown: It sounds sooo promising. I hope you get a definite line tomorrow!

[Sebski]

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[Bucktown]

Sebski I don't think 11DPO is out of the question for an implantation dip. That's what I'm going with too, but even later than yours! Will you be testing tomorrow AM? I hope you get that BFP!!!!!!

[Sebski]

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[jenjen0713]

HGMorgann & lady - Sorry to hear AF arrived! Ugh, I hate that! :mad:

Sebski - I'm liking the looks of your chart. You might be right, that might be an implantation dip and it might just be too early to get a BFP. Keeping my fingers crossed!

Bucktown - Where are you???? Anything new to report???

FF must be smoking crack because it is giving me crosshairs at CD 9. Uhhmm, I don't think so. That would be the earliest that I ever O'd in the 20 years I've been getting AF. I took my first OPK and I must say it is pretty fun to PIAC and test. It was a negative, but man, I can see how it can be addictive. I can't wait until later this afternoon when I get to do it again! :p

[Bucktown]

AF found me at 3:30AM this morning.

Those 2 tests must have been evaporation lines and I also learned yesterday that you can have a second LH surge in the LP which is probably why my OPK was positive.

All a series of coincidences for me. :(

All in all, I feel REALLY good and have tons of energy. Cleaning my house now, shopping later. I feel like spending!



Sebski AF has been a real piss head this week. I can't recall another cycle where she has been so misleading.

JenJen what in the world are they thinking?? I bet once you get a few more temps it'll change or disappear completely.

Anyone else coming up on their test week? I'll keep the witch distracted while you catch the egg!


ETA: Sebski, your chart looks super! Oh AF, I'm over here! <waves arms frantically to keep her attention over here>

[Sebski]

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[Bucktown]

Sebski When I was searching the internet looking for a glimmer of hope, I found many sites that say implantation can occur between 7-12DPO. Sometimes earlier. It's also possible that just maybe your O date is off by a day or two. Your chart is a bit misleading to me. The date of your rise you have it a special cicumstance? (I pretty sure it's the open circle; sleep depived?). Also, I'm not seeing a clear shift till CD20 but that's open to opinion. Have you ever O'd that late before? Have you been overly stressed to delay O? So if you were to O on CD20 then your dip would be on 6DPO and now you are really 8DPO---too early to test. Have you tried to take away your W-CM entry & see if that changes your O date? And technically, your DH's boys could survive the 5 days till CD20 and O happened.

Or you can completely disregard my opinion...... Either way you look at it, you got one purty chart that looks soooo promising to me. :D

Looking forward to tomorrows entry!

[HGMorgann]

[/B]bucktown and lady I'm sorry that AF found you both too. We can hate her all together at least.

sebski High Temp vibes for tomorrow!!!!!!!!!

[Brink]

Sorry I missed all the fun of everyone testing this weekend. So sorry they turned out to be BFN.

Nothing going on around here. One of these days my DH and I will BD more than just once per month and I'll feel like we have more of a chance. I think I'm somwhere around CD14 and just hanging out.

[Sebski]

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[kiki61872]

bummer on the bfn !

bucktown i really thought you were going to get a bfp!! eeeer.


as for me - still nothing.

at what point (if any) do i call my doctor? its cd 36 for me. no O, no AF.
it is my first cycle off bcp but jeez i dont get it.
i was on them for YEARS (10+) and came off and went right back to normal and then got preggers with dd pretty soon.
i dont get this at all. i only went back on the pill to get AF since i never got it naturally after DD. but i only took 3 cycles and stopped.
and i swear i keep feeling a twinge on my right side - but knowing me its in my head.....
what should i do?

[Sebski]

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[lady1297]

Bucktown: Oh geez. that sucks. Glad we're still in it together, though....

Kiki: call and see what the doc says. Was there stress in you life around ovulation? Frustrating, I'm sure...

[jenjen0713]

Dang it AF!!! You are not welcomed around here! :mad:

Well CD13 for me and the OPK was supposedly positive last night. I'm a little doubtful, but when I put it into FF, it took my crosshairs away. DH and I BDed last night just to be safe and I had a temp drop this morning, so maybe it was positive. We are going to BD tonight (if he isn't too tired) and then hopefully I'll get some crosshairs later this week.

[kiki61872]

Kiki: call and see what the doc says. Was there stress in you life around ovulation? Frustrating, I'm sure...

isnt everyday stressful when TTC-ing ;)
nothing that i can recall.
i really think its the stupid BCP. i wish i never went back on them after DD but i only did it for 3 cycles thinking it wouldnt be a big deal.
even the AF on the BCP was super super light. i wonder if my body is still out of whack from DD?
i'm going to try to wait til either tomorrow or thursday and then call and see what they say. i dont dare call today since its right after the long weekend they are probably swamped.

[Bucktown]

I hope everyone had a nice weekend. It was/still is super HOT here and it's wiping the energy right out of us.

HGMorgan and Lady Are you all close to the same cycle? I think you two are around CD3-4? Let this be it!

JenJen I don't think you want the crosshairs on your chart. That would mean your signs and temps aren't matching up. You really want that clean solid red line. I bet your drop this morning is your pre-O dip and tomorrow you'll see your rise. Catch that egg!

Sebski Darn. I was really hoping for the BFP for you today. When did you start your thyroid meds? Did your doc tell you it takes 6-8 weeks for the medicine to become fully beneficial and reach optimal therapuetic levels? I think the thyroid meds can definitely change your cycles. It took me from O-ing on CD9-11 to CD16-18. Check with your doc on this. You might need more bloodwork to confirm your medicine levels.

kiki Call them, today, and get some progesterone. I think that's what they use to start AF up. Even if they are swamped & can't get back to you today you'd be first on their list tomorrow. I'm pretty sure it takes a few days for that stuff to kick in & start AF. (My SIL has to take this almost every cycle after 40 days). Don't waste any time!

Brink Come on, let's get some more BD-ing in! ;) We need more graduates!

[kiki61872]

i just called. of course they have me on hold forever and now i'm waiting for a call back from either the nurse or a doc.
i hate sitting by the phone!

[kiki61872]

well i guess i was wrong - they just cld back! i thought i'd be waiting forever:)

i told dr how after DD in aug i never got my period on my own so thats why i did the BCP in Dec to get the cycles going. and i was only on bcp til april and now i'm off. she said it can take awhile and 37 days isnt that long when coming off bcp and not to freak out just yet.
i have an appt the end of july for my yearly so she said for me to wait and see what happens by then and we can take steps at that point if i dont have a period yet or not ovulating yet.

hopefully that appt will turn into a 1st prenatal visit i hope.

[Winter Biscuit]

Just wanted to stop by and offer some encouragement. Come on girls, catch those eggies :)

I also wanted to offer 4 OPK sticks to anyone that may want them. They are the POAS kind, and they are a store brand (Walgreens) but are supposed to be comparable to a name brand (forgot which one). They worked for me this month (first and only time I've ever used a OPK) and helped me make sure I timed our BD perfectly. If anyone is interested, please send me a PM. They're free to the first person who responds :)

kiki - I know how frustrating it must be but I have to say I agree with your doctor. It took me over 10 months to get my period after I had my DD. My first 3 or so cycles coming off BCP were really wacky. I'm talking like 40-50 days long. They eventually got regular again (well, as regular as they could get considering that I have always had irregular cycles and have never had the textbook 28-day cycles). Your body is probably just a little out of whack temporarily, esp considering that you're "supposed" to start BCPs after your period arrives, not before it comes. I am sure everything will straighten out soon! But I know how annoying it is when you want your body to do one thing, and it does another. Hang in there...the end of July will be here before you know it :)

[jenjen0713]

Winter - I just PM'ed you! :) BTW, aren't you going to spread some babydust for us? :p

kiki - Sorry you are having a rough time. I hope the doctor or nurse got you called back.

Bucktown - Sorry AF came to visit! Damn smiley test! :mad:

I got another positive OPK and we BDed last night and this morning. If I put in two more high temps over the next couple days it has me o'ing as of yesterday, so I might be 1DPO today. I really, really hope I get a negative OPK tonight so we can stop BDing....this three times in three days is not fun...what do they think I'm some sex-crazed teenager or a newlywed! :p

[Winter Biscuit]

And the winner of the OPKs is....jenjen0713. Have fun POAS ;)

Oh, and here's the baby dust...dig in!!!
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~BABY DUST*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

[Sebski]

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[jenjen0713]

Sebski - Think there is any chance you ovulated on CD20? If so, that would make you only 11DPO.

(rolling around in baby dust) - Thanks Winter Biscuit! I'm going to cover myself with the dust and hope it works! :p

Cr*p, cr*p, cr*p!!! I took an OPK last night and it is blazing positive AND my temp takes a nose dive today. DH got realy sunburned yesterday and was in no mood to BD last night and no go this morning. He promised me we would BD tonight. Geez, how the tables have turned...just a few months ago he is begging me to give it up and now I'm begging him. :rolleyes: So, looks like I'm probably ovulating today. That would put it more in line with my average O'ing date has been the last few cycles. Here's hoping there are still some swimmers lingering around from yesterday morning ready to attack to the egg...if not hopefully his boys can catch her tonight! :p

[Sebski]

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[jenjen0713]

Sebski - hhhmmmm, I'm totally at a loss on your chart. Hopefully you'll hear back from the doctor (or can talk to your neighbor) and get some more insight. I've thought about getting a CBEM but never have. I know you have to buy sticks to go with that, so I don't know if it would be more costly to do the OPKs or the CBEM in the long run. I guess if you got the CBEM, you could always recoup some of the costs by putting it on ebay.

Where's everybody else at today??

[Bucktown]

I'm here, I'm here! I was with DS getting his 2 yr. b-day pics taken. I'm so happy with them. DS was running around like a mad man so of course when I got home to review my order I didn't order enough & now it'll cost 3 times as much (since I had coupons). Looks like someone will be getting smaller sizes instead of the ones I originally had accounted for. D@mn.


Ok, now for personals:

Sebski, I really think your O date is off on your chart. I'm pretty sure you O-d on CD20 so you'd be 11DPO. I know you question your CM but this is the EXACT same thing that happened to me. I have tons of EWCM cd9-11 which made me assume that I was O-ing. Check out my 2/24/06 (I think) chart. Looks like I o'd on CD11 but look further to CD17 to where you see the jump to the 98 readings. This past cycle I used OPK's for the first time clearly expecting to get the positive surge on cd11 and not getting it till cd17. What a shocker because I had hardly no CM during that time. It was crazy.

OPK's are expensive. Plus you only get 7. For me (and you, I think) you need a kit that gives you more for your dollar. I got the Answer Daily Ovulation Tracker that gives 20 test strips. I'll start using them again when I see the EWCM & continue till I get the positive which, if like last cycle, will be from CD9-CD17.

My endo (a man) said that the meds wouldn't effect my cycles either but there is no other way to explain it. My OB says something different. I believe my medication level has totally effected my cycle.


jenjen Sunburn! What the? Tell him to slather on some aloe and take one for the team. I hope you caught that sly little egg!

Winter Biscuit Thanks for the Baby Dust! Hope all is well with you and your bean.

[Sebski]

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[kiki61872]

can you guys check out my chart?

i dont have a coverline yet - but i think i might have O'd on Monday. I had a dip in temp, Tues, Wed and Thurs it bumped up a bit and this morning is even higher.

When i had DD i never got a sharp jump in temps - it was more of a slow rise in temps.
i'm hoping that is what is happening.

not to sound like a broken record - but do you think i might have O'd?

[jenjen0713]

kiki - hhhmmm, I'm leaning towards you haven't O'd yet. Sorry. :( If the temps were a little bit higher I might be more inclined to think you had, but they seem to be around the range they have been the last couple weeks. Did you have any CM in the last few days?

Sebski - Did you ever hear back from the doctor or talk to your neighbor?

Bucktown - What a bummer about not ordering enough pictures! :mad:

Well no BDing last night for me! DH was been working some long hours this week and was asleep by 7 last night. He offered to BD this morning, but I figured it was too late anyway, so I turned him down. Temp went up, so I figure two more days of increases and I'll get crosshairs. If I do test, it will be a few days before Father's Day. Might make a cool Father's Day gift, but I'm not putting much faith into our chances this month. Just doesn't feel like we timed it right.

[kiki61872]

kiki - hhhmmm, I'm leaning towards you haven't O'd yet. Sorry. :( If the temps were a little bit higher I might be more inclined to think you had, but they seem to be around the range they have been the last couple weeks. Did you have any CM in the last few days?




ya know i've been so bent out shape about this TTC-ing thing that i really havent paid much attention to the CM anyways.
hopefully tomorrows temps will continue to go up.

[kiki61872]

well this morning is hopeful
i have a really high temp - hopefully FF can confirm an O if it stays up tomorrie

[jenjen0713]

kiki - Have you tried putting in a fake temp for tomorrow to see if it will give you crosshairs?

[Sebski]

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[kiki61872]

kiki - Have you tried putting in a fake temp for tomorrow to see if it will give you crosshairs?


oh i didnt know i could do that - i just did, i gave myself a high temp for tomorrow and it has me O on day 38 but i say i O'd on 35

[Bucktown]

Holy Sh!t Sebski, I just knew it!!!!!!! I am sooo freaking happy for you!

Congratulations, hon, I'm glad it happened so quick!

ETA: Yes, Your DH does have some super sperm. He has gained the right to walk around with his chest all puffed for the day! Wonder if I can find a pick of what I'm talking about. I'll be back!

[Bucktown]

Here he is. S stands for Super Sperm though! Will take down shortly because of copyright issues :p

[Sebski]

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[kiki61872]

Sebski thats awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bucktown]

kiki Depending on your temp tomorrow, I would say cd38. Don't worry, my new found hero Sebski, proved that spermies do survive for 5 days! Got my fingers crossed for you!

[lady1297]

Sebski! Congratulations!! Pass some of the super sperm a this way!

I'm thinking seriously of getting so OPK's for this cycle. Do you all think they are fairly easy/straigtforward? I'm getting a bit bummed out. Maybe that will let me have a bit of control back? I don't know. I'm just being hard on myself (nothing to do with you Sebski). I'm just not feeling like this is going to happen. And I don't know what to do about it all...

[kiki61872]

kiki Depending on your temp tomorrow, I would say cd38. Don't worry, my new found hero Sebski, proved that spermies do survive for 5 days! Got my fingers crossed for you!



hahaha i just looked at her chart - jeez 5 days - she's givin me hope. here i am thinking we missed the boat. guess ya never know.

here's hoping for a good temp tomorrie!

i just dont want AF for our vacation. we are going on a beach vacation in a week and half! eeeek!

[Bucktown]

Me too lady, me too. As for the OPK's, yes, it does make you feel like you have a bit more control but even with the most perfect timing, it still cannot happen (see my chart this past cycle). :( I think it hurts/confuses/angers me even more knowing that we were right on and it STILL didn't happen. I hope this is it for us. What CD are you?

[lady1297]

Bucktown: I'm on CD#7. I'm just getting tired of this. Maybe I just need to not look at the chart/temps/etc. Maybe I just need a break...

[Winter Biscuit]

Congratulations, Sebski! H&H 9 months!


I'm thinking seriously of getting so OPK's for this cycle. Do you all think they are fairly easy/straigtforward?
lady1297, just wanted to share my experience. This was my first cycle TTC #2 and was also the first time I ever used OPKs. Since this was also my first cycle charting in like 3 years, I decided to use the OPKs to help me pinpoint my O day because I had no recent charts to refer to to predict when I was likely to O this month. Lo and behold, I got pregnant this cycle. I am convinced that the OPKs really did help me identify exactly when I was Oing. They were definitely easy/straightforward to use. The one thing that you just need to remember is that the old "a line is a line" stuff does NOT count with OPKs. If you get a faint line, it does not count. With OPKs you truly have to wait until the line is as dark as the control line, or darker, before you can count it as positive. And you also have to remember that once you get a positive OPK, you will likely ovulate within 12-36 hours (depending on the type of OPK you use). Since there is such a small window of opportunity for ovulation to happen, I used the OPKs twice a day - once at 12pm (noon) and once around 10pm. (I am pretty sure that TCOYF suggested these times, I know I read these suggested times somewhere.) You could give 'em a try and see what you think. Good luck :)

[kiki61872]

where can you get cheap OPKs?

i'm in such a bad mood- i was hopfully of an O but this morning crapped out on me. i did take it alot later than normal so i'm hoping that is the case ....

[jenjen0713]

Only got a minute, but holy sh#t Sebski..5 days!!! That is awesome!! Huge congratulations to you and happy and healthy 9 months!! :D (Glad you don't have to make that doctor's appointment...I can't think of a better reason for cancelling!)

[Lvella43]

Sebski Congratulations!

*back to just reading along* I still have no idea what's going on with my cycle, but I think I might use the OPK again just to see if that will provide some insight.

Hope you all are having a wonderful weekend.

[Winter Biscuit]

where can you get cheap OPKs?

I know a lot of women on CC have bought them online for quite cheap. If you do a search, you'll probably find a few threads, or maybe someone will stop by to tell you what site they used.

If you have a Dollar Tree near you, they sell OPKs and HPTs for $1.00. However, they are not the POAS kind - you have to pee in a cup first and then use a little dropper to get some urine from the cup to drop onto the test. Kinda messy, but I guess you get what you pay for!

FWIW, I used a couple of Dollar Tree tests until I got my faint lines, then I switched to a POAS kind (Walgreen's brand - come 7 in a box) until I got my positive.

[scout]

I'm joining! I have a son who is 15 months and I'm wanting to TTC number two. I had fertility issues the first time around, so I have a referral into my fertility clinic again. I hope to start right away!

[kiki61872]

welcome scout!
hopefully you wont be here too long :p


ok so i'm still sitting around waiting to O - but yesterday and today i have lots off watery (maybe borderline eggwhite) CM.
i think today is CD 42.
the last time i had good CM was around the cd 20-ish mark.
whats up with that??
so we DTD last nite and will again today before DH goes to work....
hopefully its a sign of an O.
i feel like i'm living in a never ending cycle.

[jenjen0713]

scout - Welcome!

kiki - That sounds promising....I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!

[HGMorgann]

Hello Scout!

[Bucktown]

Welcome Scout!

kiki I feel for ya. Got my fingers crossed too that this is the O for you.

Today I started with my EWCM. Used an OPK & it's negative, which I assumed it would be. Maybe I'm recording my CM wrong. Here's my question: I know what EWCM should look like. Raw eggwhites, right? It stretches lots. To me, I would compare it to wet snot. Like the kind you get when you're sick or have horrible allergies. Mine is sometimes cloudy but sometimes tinged with brown/pink blood.

If this is EWCM, why does it come so early before O? Thank God I started OPK's last month or our timing would be so off it would never happen. But here we are, seeing lots of EWCM, and I'm panicking that I might miss the boat again even though we are doing OPK's. What gives with the goofy CM & it's timing?

[kiki61872]

bucktown -
here is what FF says about it ...


Why do I have several patches of fertile cervical fluid?


Several patches of eggwhite fluid with no clear thermal shift may mean that you are having an anovulatory cycle or delayed ovulation. You can have "fertile-like" cervical fluid and still not ovulate. If you have several cycles that show this pattern without an associated thermal shift, you should ask your doctor to help determine whether or not you are ovulating.

If you have several patches of eggwhite cervical fluid and a temperature rise, then your ovulation was probably delayed due to some external reason. As long as ovulation is not already clearly indicated, you should still have intercourse at least every other day when you see eggwhite cervical fluid to make sure not to miss an opportunity.

[Bucktown]

kiki, yeah, I read that too last month. I know I'm O-ing and I don't think I have multiple patches of fertile CM, it's just off. I get tons of EWCM cd9-12 then watery cd13-cd18 or till I O, or sometimes I don't see anything. I would just think that O would happen when the best stuff is around, not when I have little to none!

[kiki61872]

when i had DD the same thing happened to me.
i got EWCM around 13-14 but i didnt O until i think cd 21 or 22.
weird huh

[lauren f s]

I haven't posted anything in ages, but DH and I are going to officially start trying next month. DD was a total surprise, so I'm clueless when it comes to TTC. I've been working out and eating well for several months now and have recently started taking a prenatal vitamin. Is there anything else I need to know/do?

[jenjen0713]

lauren - Welcome! Are you charting? If not, is a great way to determine if you are ovulating and when you might be most fertile. It involves taking your temp and checking cervical mucous. Fertilityfriend.com has a place where you can chart for free.

[lauren f s]

I've signed up at Fertility Friend. Do I need to go buy a special thermometer, though, or can I just use a regular one?

[jenjen0713]

I got a BBT (basal body temp) from Walgreens for maybe around $8-10. That type of thermometer is recommended. Fertility Friend has a great e-book on their website that explains charting and what your fertility signs are. I also go the book Taking Charge of Your Fertility (TCOYF) off of ebay (it might be at your public library) and it is awesome about explaining charting and temp taking and cervical mucous checking.

[lady1297]

UPDATE: CM has changed, so we're looking at ovulation between now and this weekend. Good timing for us. We're going away for the weekend, but I'm guessing I'll ovulate Thursday or so. Wish us luck!

[kiki61872]

UPDATE: CM has changed, so we're looking at ovulation between now and this weekend. Good timing for us. We're going away for the weekend, but I'm guessing I'll ovulate Thursday or so. Wish us luck!

YEAH Lady.
Good Luck!!!!

welcom Lauren - I got my BBT at CVS. I think it was $9. You can find them usually in the 'family planning' section of the store.
Definately check out the fertilityfriend handbook online. i think its under the getting started tab if i remember correctly.

[Bucktown]

Fly by:

JenJen I was stalking your chart and noticed a dip. Would be perfect timing for that implantation dip don't ya think????? Sorry if I'm egging you on but I gotta live the dream thru someone!

lauren Welcome back!

[Bucktown]

Last real quick post:

Good Luck Lady!

[Winter Biscuit]

I've signed up at Fertility Friend. Do I need to go buy a special thermometer, though, or can I just use a regular one?

As others have already said, you will want a thermometer that measures Basal Body Temperature, which is your temperature upon waking. A BBT measures your temperature to one-tenth of a degree. In the world of charting, every tenth of temperature has significant meaning. Most regular thermometers do not measure temps to 1/10 of a degree, which can cause you to misinterpret your BBT and could possibly cause you to miscalculate when ovulation occurs.

FWIW, I got my BBT at Walgreens for under $10 (it looks just like a regular digital thermometer only it has pink accents on it) and it has a memory thing built in so I don't even need to be fully awake when I record my temp. In other words, when my alarm goes off every morning, I just reach over for the thermometer, stick it in my mouth, wait for it to beep (which means it is done taking my temp and has recorded it) and I'm done. Later, when I am awake, I can turn it on again to see what my last recorded temp was, and that is when I enter it into Fertility Friend. This is especially helpful because you are supposed to take your temp at the same time every morning. For me, this was 5:30am since I work outside the home and that's what time I normally get up. On weekends, I still took my temp at 5:30am following the steps above, but I was never fully "awake" when I did it so I didn't mind:)

I found my BBT next to the regular thermometers at the drug store, also I have seen them near the condoms and pregnancy tests in other stores.

[jenjen0713]

Winter Biscuit - FYI...I got the package in the mail! Thanks a million! If by some miracle I get a BFP this month, I return the good deed and forward them on to someone else.

lady - Oh, yeah, so exciting! Good luck!

Bucktown - Oh, I feel so loved! :o My mind is already starting to play tricks on me and give me those FPS. Backache, bloating, cramping. Yep, I'm officially on the crazy train for the next week. I have a EPT in my house and I have Monday off from work and I just know I won't have the willpower to resisit testing even though I'll only be 11 DPO. Thank God, I control the checkbook and DH never looks in it. If he only knew how much I spend on OPKs and pregnancy tests, he would kill me! :p

[Bucktown]

jenjen 11DPO is a good number! I always try to wait till 10DPO at the earliest. Tests are so sensitive nowadays they pick up teeny tiny amounts! Good Luck!

[kiki61872]

sighhhhhhhhhh
what a day already.
still nothing in the TTC dept and i'm getting depressed.....
plus its POURING out here. yesterday my street was closed due to flooding. i'm tired, cold, wet and i'm not ovulating wahhhh :mad:

[lady1297]

THanks everyone for the good luck vibes! I decided to step up my chances by signing on to Fertility Friend. Maybe it will not be needed next month?? :) DH and I are DTD feinds right now. I hope that it will help the situation!

[Bucktown]

kiki Sorry you're having a miserable day.How about a special treat to pick you up? For me, it's always Fannie Mae Pixies. They were originally made in Chicago (but I think a company in SLC bought them out) but they are divine! Anytime I feel like crap I get the stroller out, plop DS in and walk to the nearest grocery to buy my a single serve. Does it every time! :p

lady If you're on FF now post a link to your chart so we can obsess with you! Great luck to you!!:D

[jenjen0713]

Bucktown - You are such a bad influence! :p I know I won't have the willpower to resist on Monday, so I'll just take it for "fun" and try not to give it much thought that it will be negative.

kiki - So sorry you are having a bad day!! I agree on getting yourself a special treat....for me it is freshly baked chocolate chip cookies and then I gorge myself until I'm sick.

lady - Totally agree....you need to post your FF link so we can check it out!

As for me 7DPO...I keep telling myself, I'll know something definite by this time next week. The backache and cramping had a couple days ago is gone, so I'm trying to figure out if an itchy belly-button is an early sign of pregnancy! :p

[kiki61872]

jenjen0713 - goog luck testing!
7dpo is too early i think - maybe sunday?


question for you guys - i'm on vacation next week. we wont have a computer where we are staying. i'm thinking the best way is for me to write my temps down and then just enter them when i come home? is that what you guys do?

[lady1297]

Bucktown and Jenjen- I'd be glad to, but how do I do it??? I'm a moron with that stuff. How do I know what the http:// is? And it will be a crappy chart htis month since I"m half way through and just started temping yesterday, so don't expect much. :)

[Bucktown]

Much to my surprise I got my smiley face this evening. The BD fest begins now! Wish us luck too!

[jenjen0713]

lady - Go to the tab that says "sharing" and then to "home page setup". The very first thing you'll see is "Your Charting Home Page Web Address". For example mine is: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/794c9.

Bucktown - Alright for the smiley face!! Good luck!

[lady1297]

Thanks jenjen!!! Predict away (since there is no real way of reading it - I started temping on day 10...)

[kiki61872]

Much to my surprise I got my smiley face this evening. The BD fest begins now! Wish us luck too!



good luck good luck good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jenjen0713]

Bucktown - I see there was a little "boom boom" action going on in your house last night!! Good girl! :D

lady - That temp rise is looking good. The next few days will be interesting to see if they keep rising.

kiki - When I'm going to be away from the computer for a while, I just do exact what you wrote about...write it down and then plug the temperatures in when I get to a computer again.

[lady1297]

Thanks Jenjen! I hope its a good sign! There was a bit of a difference in temp timing, but I'm convinced it's no big difference. :)

[Brink]

Just wanted to pop in and say Hi. Sorry I haven't been around much to support everyone. We are getting ready to sell our house and have been super busy with landscaping.

Anyway - not much going on here. I'm on CD24 and have no idea when I O'd. My last three cycles were around 21 days, so not sure what is going on. We only DTD once last month (it's a pattern for us) and I have no idea if we were anywhere near the right time, so I'm not getting hopes up. I guess I will give it until next week to test. I'm definitely going to Walgreens to get the smiley faced OPKs next month. Hopefully they will work.

Sending baby vibes to everyone!

[lady1297]

Ugh. DH has left the building. So much for doing everything possible to protect the fertile time. :( Our dog got injured by playing too hard and we couldn't take her with us to DH's mom's (She has 2 dogs and they all play rough). So DS and I are stuck at home for the weekend while DH goes up to work at his mom's. I'm frustrated...

[Bucktown]

lady So sorry to hear of this. :( Hoping you can catch the egg anyway.

brink I love the smiley OPK's BUT I use the Answer 20 strip pack to test starting when I get EWCM (or sometimes sooner). When I think I have a positive I pull out the smiley's to absolutely confirm. The smiley's are super expensive; like $37 for 7 tests. I would recommend doing something like this since you are not sure when you are O-ing and using smiley's for everyday testing would put me in the poor house!

[lady1297]

Thanks Bucktown! I'm very disappointed and think DH and I may need to have a nice little chat about how seriously we are taking this. Maybe I'm just off the deep end a bit. I don't know.

[HGMorgann]

I'm sorry lady12. We've just had 2 cycles of totally missing the fertile period, so I know how frustrating it is!

goodluck bucktown It seems, you, lady and I are on the same schedule.
I have EWCM today:) I think for the first time in a while, we actually are timing it right. Of course, I will be a lot more let down if AF arrives. I am doing Vitex and Prog. Cream this cycle and multi-vit.

[Bucktown]

3 testing buddies! Yeah, that's fantastic! :D

As for me, today I got my 3rd positive OPK and it's driving me crazy. I know it's not the tests since they are the same as I used last cycle and I got a negative on cd10 PLUS I have the smiley's to confirm. I was so shocked to see it at noon (just to confirm a negative) that I did 2 more after that. One at 2p and another at 7:30p. It's like my body just doesn't want me pg so it keeps changing itself from cycle to cycle. I wonder if something else is going. I didn't know cycles could change so drastically from month to month.

JenJen have you tested and are holding out on us??? I think you're testing tomorrow, no? Good Luck!!!

[lil_nance]

Just checking in. I had a physical this week and everything came back great. I'm glad because it's one more positive thing that hopefully will make this TTC go quicker. I'm all ready to do some warm up BDing before we start TTC in late July/Aug. Unfortunately, I'm dealing with a little infection. UGH!!! sometimes I hate being female.
In other news DS is almost completely weaned. I'm really depressed about it. I loved BFing. But, due to complications with my 1st pregnancy, I thought it would be safer to not be still BFing while pg. Hopefully we'll get pg quickly and then I'll have a new little one to nurse. (sigh)

[lady1297]

Okay, today I felt like I was dying on my left side. BFF diagnosed Ovulation Pain. I think I agree with her. So, if DH gets home tomorrow evening and we DTD, is there any hope that it might work? Or, once you ovulate, it's pretty much too late? I forget. Of course, then we run the 'risk' of having a boy, right? If we DTD closer to ovulation, it increases the chances of a boy? Right?

[jenjen0713]

Bucktown - Nope, no testing for me until tomorrow when I'll be 11DPO. :) I did have a big temp jump this morning and was incredibly moody yesterday and on the verge of tears at one point in the day. Those FPS are in full effect! :D

Three testers all at the same time....this place is going to be jumping in about 10-14 days isn't it?? Love it!

lady - I think Ms. Egg can live for 12-24 hours after ovulation, so there is most defintely an opportunity for Mr. Sperm to stage an attack on her! I think I have read that boy sperm are faster swimmers, so if you are wanting a boy, it is best to BD as close to ovulation as possible.

lil_nance - I'm dreading the day I have to wean DS:( . I never thought I would make it to 8 months (and would really like to make it to a year), but I don't know if I'll be able to make it or not.

[lady1297]

jenjen : Thanks. We aren't too picky, but if we get another boy, it'll mean at least one more try for a girl! That or one of the boys has to like shopping!! Are you having troubles nursing you babe? Is that why you are unsure if you'll make it to a year? I've been nursing DS for 22 months, never thought I'd get through 6 weeks, but we've made it. Now we are weaning, seems to be a good time for it, he's very distracted by everything!! Taking advantage of that for all it's worth! Sorry, hijack over....

[Bucktown]

jenjen wow that is a HUGE temp jump. Will you be testing with FMU? I will be in first thing in the AM to get an update. Hopefully, you'll be posting before 8 AM central time. :D Good Luck!

lady maybe your O was delayed a bit because of stress/letdown from the weekend. Put the babe to bed earlier & jump on DH when he walks in that door!


Another positive OPK for me. Ho Hum. DH has bronchitis so he has a horrible cough which has kept me up for 1 week now. I've been sleeping on the couch it's so bad but not after suffering in the bed next to him till I can't take it no more. So from 10p till 1a, I try to sleep in the bed w/ him. By 1a I'm so pissed from lack of sleep I head to the couch. Who knows how accurate my temps are since I've been getting about 4 hrs sleep (DS wakes at 5:30a). I think they still show no sign of a temp rise :( D@mn OPK"s.

[HGMorgann]

bucktown have you noticed a change in CM maybe?

[miel]

Can I join?

Name: Miel
Married: 7/27/02
Chiquita Banana: 3/20/04
TTC: November. First time charting next month!

I'm going to start charting to deal with my nerves about being such an old mom with #2. I'm not sure if I'll be able to do it. For one thing, I never go to bed at the same time every night. For another, I often sleep less than 3 hours. I don't know if it will work. But I'm going to try and get a sense of my cycle and pray everything still works.

[jenjen0713]

miel - Welcome, may your stay be short and sweet!

Well, I'm up at 1:30 in the morning and what do I do, but POAS and I get this....

http://images1.snapfish.com/34732%3C%3A5%3B%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D3255%3E84%3B%3E349% 3EWSNRCG%3D323382%3C9%3A%3A59%3Anu0mrj :eek: :eek: :eek:

Are you serious??? Me, pregnant with #2??? If I didn't actually see the word, I wouldn't believe it. I took an Equate first and it was so light that I thought it was an evaporation line so I took the digital one and up popped the word. I took an Equate yesterday and a FRER and got faint lines but had to take the tests apart and really look at them to see the line. I'm going to wait to tell Patrick until Father's Day and make it a surprise. I'm hoping to get into my doctor's today for blood confirmation. Please send me all the sticky vibes you can spare!! :D

I'm going to be watching each and every one of you and hope to see you all get that BFP soon!

And now without further ado.....

~~~~~~~~~~~BABY DUST~~~~~~~~

[lady1297]

hehe Bucktown!! Well, i didn't quite jump him, but baby went to bed early (and woke up early-UGH!). I would have jumped him, but I was folding laundry all over the bed!! OPPS! (and it was already wrinkled enough!!) I had ovulation pain on Staurday, which I've never had before, so maybe there is a chance. Hope DH has quick swimmers! hehe!

In sad news, well to me, we realized last night that next month will be out because he'll be in Canada fishing. At that I lost it, pretty much went loco on his arse. It's been fishing or work for the last few months. He could have been home MUCH earlier yesterday if he had said no to fishing with his Step-father. But he can't. So while he was giving me a back massage (LOVE massage oil, good make up for missing ovulation!), I told him I thought he needed to put us first. That means, if he's taking time off to go fishing, he also has to take time off to do things with us. Our son hadn't seen him since Friday at dinner and that was for all of an hour. That's not fair to him or to me. I think the conversation helped. So, sorry for the rant, but the moral is: If we don't succeed this month, we'll try again in August. And I think I'll schedule him a vacation during that time so we can take full advantage of naps and early bedtimes.

Welcome Miel!! May your stay be VERY short!! There are other signs to go off of if you can't temp regularly. It helps to temp, and I'd encourage you to do so anyway, but your CM and moods can be great predictors to your ovulation timeframe!

And finally jenjen!! OMG!!!!!!!!!! HAPPY FATHER"S DAY!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!

[Winter Biscuit]

Congratulations jenjen0713!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

H&H (and sticky) 9 months to you! May the rest of you follow with your own BFPs shortly :)

[Bucktown]

JenJen Congrats to you! I hope all goes well and you have a perfect, happy baby!

lady geeze, your TTC journey sounds like mine but in a different way. Your obstacle is your DH, mine is my stupid cycles.

Miel Welcome! I'm sure you'll be successful soon since I seem to be the individual who attracts AF here. Good Luck to you.

HGMorgann Yes, there is a change in CM but I wouldn't know how to record it. It's not EWCM, not watery & not creamy. It's cloudy. :confused:

I give up trying to figure this out. This is punishment for me being able to conceive DS so quickly. I thought I paid for it enough with the birth of DS and all the drama with that. Yeah, I know, it hasn't been that long and others have been trying a lot longer & some don't even have one DC. But I'm sick of obsessing over this every freaking day, forcing myself to BD because my CM says one thing, OPK's say another & my temps say yet another.

I need a break. Good luck ladies. <end rant>.

[lady1297]

Fertility Friends question. Why are there open circles sometimes and closed ones other times??

[jenjen0713]

Thanks everyone for the well wishes! The doctor won't see me until I'm 10-11 weeks along so my first doctor's appointment isn't until August 1. :(

Sorry for those of you feeling down about the TTC process. I'm going to be lurking in here and secretly rooting you all on and sending some prayer request to the man upstairs to send some BFPs to each of you! :D

[lady1297]

Next www.fertilityfriends.com question:

Okay, can someone look at my chart (It's been awhile since I temped and I forget). Why is the crosshairs so far back? I thought it should be like yesterday??

[Brink]

JenJen - Congratulations - Yeah for a Father's Day Gift! H&H 9 (10) months to you.

Well, AF arrived yesterday - no surprise. My cycle was longer this month, so maybe that is a good sign. It was running 21 days and this one was 27. I'm going to get some of those smiley face OPKs this month. Hopefully they will work!

[lady1297]

So, where is everybody??? It's too quiet here. Everyone happily DTD??? Just for fun? For a purpose??

We're just enjoying ourselves as much as possible. Trying to pay off stuff and get settled in just in case we ever meet long enough to make another baby! My girlfriend just (Monday) had her first baby and it made me remember so many good things as well as how fragile fertility is. She tore very severely and almost had to have a complete hysterectomy because the doctors were having a hard time stopping the bleeding. That made me realize that one child is a true blessing. But it doesn't stop me from praying that God bless us with another one. I accepted that role when I said my marriage vows and prayed my marriage prayers, to accept lovingly any children God graced us with. And I think thhat is what is so hard with these issues we are having. I truly believe that we are meant to have ore than one child. I never saw us only having one. But he is what God has given us up to this point and for that I am eternally grateful. I'm trying to spend as much time playing with my son and teaching him things and lovign him (hard soemtimes as he is 2! hehe!) instead of dwelling on the fact that is still an only child. DH and I are planning a vacation in August, probably a stay home and do fun things with DS kind of vacation, and we are intentionally timing it for my fertile time (we hope!) So, maybe that will help a bit. It has me totally excited. And I think DS will love having Dada home to play with all day long! I know I will!

So, what's your summer's looking like in relation to TTC #2? How are you approaching it now?

[miel]

Jen Congrats! Best wishes for a great pregnancy and birth.

Lady Tried to open your link but nothing came up. However, I know nothing about charting (yet!) so I couldn't help you--I will try when I know more.

Brink Good luck on a longer cycle!

[kiki61872]

holy moly jenjen - congrats!

i'm back from vacation - way too short.

i'm a little disappointed - i have been temping on vacation and my temps have been going up and up - i swore when i got home and put them on FF i would have an O
but nothing. i had one super-high temp a few weeks ago and i'm htinking that is throwing off my chart?

[tinkerbelljenny]

Congrats JenJen! That is wonderful news!!

[kiki61872]

Next www.fertilityfriends.com question:

Okay, can someone look at my chart (It's been awhile since I temped and I forget). Why is the crosshairs so far back? I thought it should be like yesterday??



hmmm lady i dont know.
maybe because you had a lil dip there? i read that occasionally you can have a 'dip' when you O????

[kiki61872]

YAHOOOOOOOOOOOO



i have an O finally!!!
i'm so excited - FF confirmed it at cd53!
the good news is that we dtd ALOT on vacation so i'm hoping we caught the egg!!!

[lady1297]

YEAHH!!!!!!!!!!! YIPPPPEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go have more fun, just for fun this time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lady1297]

Guess while I'm here dancing with Kiki, I'll update. I'm 9 DPO, and have decided that I will just wait until 14 DPO, which is when I expect AF to do any kind of testing. I don't think I've got any chance, so why waste the test, right!? So, I'm just going through the motions.

[kiki61872]

yeah i know dh is like the pressure if off.
phew.
now the 2ww - eeek.

i'm a little nervous - i didnt think i was ever going to O so on vacation i had a few glasses of wine then when we got back i threw my back out and took some pain pills. eeek! my back is still hurting but now that i have a definate O i'm suffering it out!



lady good luck waiting it out.
with dd i couldnt wait - i tried to wait but broke down at i think 9 or 10 dpo and got a bfn but waited and tried again two days later for my bfp.

[miel]

Kiki--Good luck. Does anyone know about the implantation thing? I thought the egg doesn't implant for a little bit and thus you don't have to worry about wine. One thing you should avoid about is ibuprofen because that can cause the egg to not implant.

However, I don't know much. Also, I didn't know I was pregnant last time and did everything I always did during what should have done the 2WW including taking tons of advil (the implanting hurt ALOT. I thought it was cramps.) I vaguely recall that I was later reassured about this for some reason--because the 2WW is really pretty safe as far as what can get to the baby.

Am I wrong?

[lady1297]

So how faint is too faint for a positive???????????????????????????? I just POAS, and I got a VERYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY faint + on an EPT. I'm going to retest tomorrow morning, but I'm about dieing right now of excitement of the possibility! Just dieing...Oh, Dear God, please be positive!

What do you all think??http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/lady1297/P6140005.jpg

[lady1297]

Guess it isn't so clear in photos. How do you all get such nice crisp pics?? I'll try again tomorrow with another POAS.

[jenjen0713]

lady - OMG, I can see it!!! Congratulations!!! Yippee!!!

[lauren f s]

We're in the 2ww now. I'm not expecting it to happen since a few things came up and we weren't able to DTD as often as I'd have liked. But, you never know, right?

[Allegra]

what faint line??? I can see a HUGE DARK line clear as day!! Congrats!

Allegra

[kiki61872]

LADY -

yipppeee that is definately a line!
congrats and have a happy next 9mos :) :) :)

[lady1297]

Thanks everyone! I needed that! DH is being an ass tonight (yelled at DS for pooping on the floor instead of the potty-parentland isn't good right now), so I'm waiting until tomorrow to POAS again in the am, then figure out how to tell him. Hopefully, this pissyness will end and we can move on and figure out what to do with 2 kids! YEAH! Please baby stick! :)

[HGMorgann]

Congrats lady that line is DARK!

[lady1297]

Thanks HGMorgann! I took another one before bedtime and it's def faint double lined First Response. Freaking out over here over joy and freaking out over reality....weird...

[lady1297]

Another one (am I compulsive or what!?), definitly a faint line, little TINY bit darker than yesterday's!

So, now the guestion is when do I tell DH and when do we tell everyone else. I mean, I'm only 3 weeks. So much can happen. I'll tell DH tonight I know. It's killing me that I haven't told him yet. I keep thinking I should call him at work and tell him. Or email him. But then I think, No, I want to see his reaction. I loved his reaction with DS1, I'd hate to miss it with #2. What would you all do? I want to get a "I'm A Big Brother" shirt to tell everyone, and I was going to use it to tell DH, too. Should I stick to that plan? That way we don't have to tell everyone just yet, just in case?? Ugh, I was up half the night thinking about this too much.... :)

OHHH!! And when do you all think we concieved? One date puts us Feb, one puts us in March? And based off of LMP, it's March. Should probably go by that one, huh?? Argh...too much thinking...

[kiki61872]

poor me - i'm having myself a pity party today.

my temp really was looooow this morning and i'm spotting. so i'm thinking AF is on her way.
wtf - come on it takes me 53 days to finally o and then i get af 5 days after?! gimme a break.
i'm holding out a small amount of hope that maybe its that implantation dip but i guess its all a wait and see...

[lady1297]

Oh Kiki, I'm sooo sorry. I'll hope for an implantation dip for you, okay? :) Hugs hon.

[Winter Biscuit]

Congrats, lady!! H&H 9 months to you. FWIW, it took 2 days for the "I'm going to be a big sister" t-shirt that I ordered from Cookie Press to arrive. Just in case you want to use that option when you tell your DH ;)

For all the rest of you, I hope you get the results you want. Soon! :)

[lady1297]

Thanks WinterBicuit, but I don't think I'll wait that long. The shop was closed when I went by, but I'll tell DH tonight. We'll decide when and how to tell everyone else later.

[miel]

Congrats Lady!! Hooray!!

[jenjen0713]

Bucktown - Are you out there? I've been watching your chart! :)

[kiki61872]

well ladies - i'm out.
back at cd1 for me today :(

[lady1297]

Ugh! Kiki, that stinks. Is that normal for you to have such a short time between your ovulation and menses? It doesn't seem like it should be that short. What does your doctor say? I hope it's a one time fluke and you have a normal cycle next month, really. Hugs!

[kiki61872]

Ugh! Kiki, that stinks. Is that normal for you to have such a short time between your ovulation and menses? It doesn't seem like it should be that short. What does your doctor say? I hope it's a one time fluke and you have a normal cycle next month, really. Hugs!

i have an appt the end of july - so i'm definately going to discuss it with her.

[lady1297]

kiki-Glad to hear that. I hope it's just a fluke!

[HGMorgann]

Usually my cycles are about 24 days, and today is cd 28, so I broke down and tested and it was BFN. I'm bummed.

Kiki - sorry about AF. Booh.

[lady1297]

I'm sorry to hear that HGMorgann. That stinks. :(

[Mrs.Chappy]

========de-lurking-------

My best friend just had her first yesterday..now i am reliving my baby-longing days...i'm going through the whole 'am i ready to be a mommy again' thing. DS just turned 1. I'm nuts...just wanted to get that on paper.

[HGMorgann]

Mrs. Chappy, I dont think your nuts!

AF arrived this morning. I'm a bit bummed, but also positive because using Vitex and NPC this cycle helped my LP tremendously. I had a 29 day cycle with an approximate 14 day LP which is incredible for me. (Normal is 24 day with 10 day LP). So this herbal thing might just work again. I hate doctors.......but will go at the end of the summer if I have to.

[Bucktown]

<coming out of hiding>

jenjen thanks for checking up on me. :) Don't think I've recouped though. I have an RE appointment on July 17 if nothing by then.

Lady Congrats to you! H&H 9 months.

<goes back into hiding>

[miel]

Good luck Kiki with your appt.

Sorry HGMorgan about your BFN. How many days do you have to wait from the end of your cycle to test? Did you test early-ish?

I don't know enough yet to know if this is a dumb question. I apologize if it is.

[lady1297]

Bucktown: I hope your appointment gets cancelled! HUGS! And prayers!

[kiki61872]

Mrs. Chappy, I dont think your nuts!

AF arrived this morning. I'm a bit bummed, but also positive because using Vitex and NPC this cycle helped my LP tremendously. I had a 29 day cycle with an approximate 14 day LP which is incredible for me. (Normal is 24 day with 10 day LP). So this herbal thing might just work again. I hate doctors.......but will go at the end of the summer if I have to.


what is Vitex and NPC?
where do you get those and how do you use them? maybe i'll give them a whirl this cycle....

[kiki61872]

oh wait is Vitex like that Fertility Blend?

[HGMorgann]

meil I was about 13 DPO when I tested.

kiki Yes, Vitex is like fertility blend. FB has other herbs in it though. I take Vitex from CD1-ovulation. http://www.babyhopes.com/articles/vitex.html I took the amount suggested on the bottle this past cycle. NPC is "Natural Progesterone Cream" - I use it after ovulation until AF arrives and when I got pg. with DD, I used it until week 14 or so.

I used both to get pg. with DD and have seen a major improvement in my cycle with them this time around. :0)

[kiki61872]

i'll have to check that out.
i did order some OPK and some pre-seed.
i'll see what happens this cycle and then if it looks like i'm heading down the path like last month i 'll order the pills.
if you are supposed to do cd1 - O i'm already past that time. i think i'm on cd5 now? i forget i'll have to look at my chart. ....

[HGMorgann]

kiki I dont know about starting it later. Vitex is really one of those herbs that you don't expect to see results right away. It is more effective after 3-6 cycles. I am pretty sure I got pg. with my DD on the 3rd cycle of it.

[kiki61872]

question for you guys that use fertility blend or vitex -
do you follow the recommend intake on the bottle?
i think with FB it says take a pill 3x a day - but i'm petite and i'm thinking that might be too much for me?

[miel]

I was about 13 DPO when I tested.


OK, sorry for my ignorance. Still learning the ropes.

As far as Vitex, I take this expensive multivitamin when I am afraid I am so run down I will get sick and I always ovulate when I take it and have lots and lots of cm. So I do think vitamins absolutely make a difference.

I'm definitely going to go the Vitex route when we start a couple of months from now.

I'll test out this theory more when I start to chart for real.

[HGMorgann]

Dont apologize!

I totally agree that vitamins help with TTC. Hopefully you wont need the Vitex though, but its a good herb I think!

[usafwife]

Just a quick question: Does anyone update the first post? I joined a few pages back (before we knew we were already pregnant with #2). So my stay was rather short. I was just wondering as I know at least one other lady on the first page is pregnant as well (due a couple of weeks before me) and her stats haven't been changed either (although she is on the list).

[kiki61872]

so last nite i picked up some B6 and Zinc. I'm going to start taking those along with my prenatals. see what happens......
i ordered some OPK online but havent got thme in the mail yet - i hope they arrive soon.....

[miel]

Hey you guys--just wanted to remind you to give vitamins to the hubs. Vitamin C is the most important one but probably a good multivitamin wouldn't hurt.

This is what I've read for healthy sperm--vitamin c.

Every night I give my husband: Fish oil pills, vitamin c, garlic and a multivitamin.

He complains about the garlic but it's made my blood pressure go down and we hope it makes his cholesterol go down.

[kiki61872]

good point miel!
DH has some multivitimins - hopefully he is taking them. he's usually pretty good about that. he's ocd about germs and getting sick!


can i just tell you guys i'm so down in the dumps right now. i'm so scared that this cycle will be like last cycle (didnt O til cd53 and got af 5 days after!).
dh thinks i'm putting the cart before the horse and i should just 'relax'. of course that makes me more upset - relax -is he insane!!!

it just makes me so mad. SIL just had a baby (VERY long story short)- she's in her late 30's, smokes, is an alcolic and a drug addict. She used thru out her entire pregnancy. how come some one like this can get pregnant??????????

[miel]

Hi Kiki--

I'm so sorry you are down in the dumps. Don't be scared about your cycle. It'll get back into balance. I really believe that. (I'm not saying 'relax' either--just there are lots of reasons for optimism. Some of these are fluke things. My friend who was eating crazy amounts of korean food had her cycle go completely nuts. Maybe from all the soy. Who knows? Then she got pregnant. It's probably within the range of normal to have freaky cycles. You will get pregnant too, but SOON I hope!)

It's weird how fertility works--and not really fair either. Just some people have different systems and there's so much luck involved. There are those crazy people who get pregnant on a dime. My mom only has one ovary and had two surgeries on her ovaries, one where an ovary was removed and one where a cyst was removed. Getting pregnant was still easy for her even in her late 30s. I think she started going into menopause when she was 58 or something. And she smokes also.

That's very depressing about your SIL using when she was pregnant. That makes me so sad. I hope that baby will be OK.

[Brink]

Hi everyone, I hope we have some good news around here soon.

We just got back from vacation (I haven't checked CC in almost 2 weeks!). We got a smiley face on the OPK while we were gone and were able to DTD twice during prime time. So, we'll see. I'm trying to remember with PG#1 when my bb's started to feel sore. I know if I am pg, I would only be about 5-7 days so I"m sure too early to feel anything, but just trying to remember. Hopefully we'll get good news this month. If not, I'm going to call my OB and ask to be put on Clomid. That is how we got pg with #1.

Hope everyone else is doing great.

[kiki61872]

Good Luck Brink


I ordered a bunch of OPK from saveontests.com and just got them the other day. I poas yesterday and got a -
today is cd12 so i'll try it again.
i ordered 50 so i dont care - i'm going to poas every freakin day to get my + darn it. and i got some preseed too.
hopefully it will help.

the only good thing is i have my dr appt the last week of july - so if this doesnt turn out well - i have my appt to discuss things.

[kiki61872]

hope everyone has a happy 4th.

took my temp this morning- its SOOOO low. good grief - what am i, dead? jeez

[kiki61872]

where has everyone been.............................:confused: :confused: :confused:

[HGMorgann]

We've been on vacation. I managed to remember my Vitex most days! I hope everyone had a great 4th!

[Brink]

So, how early is really too early to test? I'm on CD22 and probably about 7DPO, I know I should wait until at least this weekend, but it's killing me! How early is just ridiculous and what can I get away with and not feel too guilty about wasting a test?

[kiki61872]

So, how early is really too early to test? I'm on CD22 and probably about 7DPO, I know I should wait until at least this weekend, but it's killing me! How early is just ridiculous and what can I get away with and not feel too guilty about wasting a test?


at 7 dpo - i dont think you would get a result that early. i would at least try to wait til 9dpo. gl

[girlygirl]

I'd like to join! I have a son who is 15 months, and I'm on my 2nd cycle trying for #2. I'm trying to be patient this time around, but it's tough since my cycles are irregular and long (40-60 days). Also, we conceived DS the first cycle, so I have to remind myself that we were very lucky :)

[girlygirl]

Brink - I'm going to say that you should probably wait until 9 or 10 dpo, but I'd probably break out the tests tomorrow ;)

[kiki61872]

welcome girlygirl


have any of your ladies used EPO? i just picked some up. those are some big ol'pills. i'm hoping it will help with CM (or lack there of!!)
i read that once you O to stop taking EPO and take flax seed oil - has anyone done that? is the flax seed oil really necessary or should i just take EPO til i O?


does anyone monitor CP? i have hard time telling the difference between medium and low???



oh - today i woke up to pee at 5am and i went back to bed and got up at 6. i was going to take my temp at 5 but i forgot. oh well. i dont think much is going on anyways. my CP still is low and i dont have EWCM.

[Brink]

Well, I broke down and took a test last friday and got a big fat NEGATIVE. Then, I re-read the package on the digital test and it says your chances of getting an accurate result at day -3 is only 55%. Well, I was like day -5. So, I retook it this morning and guess what?????????

































PREGNANT

I am thrilled but also cautious. I would have been really dissapointed if we had not gotten PG this month. We BD'd at the "exact" right time, 2 days prior to O and on O with plenty of EWCM. If I had not gotten PG this month, I was going in to get some Clomid for next month.

Please send your sticky vibes my way....... I'll be nervous for the next 10wks!


Here is some BABY DUST for all of you.............................

[kiki61872]

great news!

[jenjen0713]

Congratulations Brink!!!! Mucho, mucho sticky vibes to you!

[tinkerbelljenny]

Congrats Brink!

[HGMorgann]

congrats Brink!!!

[usafwife]

Congratulations, Brink!

~~Sticky Vibes~~ for you.

[HGMorgann]

How is everybody? We are about 7 DPO here. We BD-ed at the right time, yet I am not optimistic...

Have a great Sunday!

[miel]

Congrats Brink!!!!!!

[miel]

I checked abbreviations and can't figure out what EPO is.

Thanks.

[HGMorgann]

Evening Primrose Oil - a natural supplement

[miel]

Thanks HG Morgan!!!


Crud. I really need to start charting. Just keeping track of menstruation is an accomplishment. I never did that before. Kinda pathetic. They are exactly 27 days long. Or 28 days. I assume you don't count the day you started last time, correct?

Anyway, I think I had the ovulation indicator thing-cervical mucus or whatever it's called. I could have been misreading it. But if I did, it happened only 8 days after my period started. (Again, I have to chart. I'm just posting this to encourage myself to chart!)

That would be bad, right? Ovulating right away--you aren't supposed to do that, I assume. I need to get (1) Take charge of your fertility. I wanted to buy it from Amazon. I saw it in a store and it is kind of expensive but they have a CD in the store. I didn't want to get it from Amazon since there is no indication from Amazon that the book comes with the CD. I think the CD is a charting program. I might be wrong about that.

(2) Get a basal thermameter (3) CHART!

I never wake up at the same time ever so this is why I've been so bad about charting. It's all sort of crazy. My daughter sleeps in our room with us (we have a 1 bdrm. apt.) and I can't set the alarm without waking her up. Maybe I'll just start setting it for 10 a.m. in case I sleep that late (I often work at night until 6 or 7 a.m.)

OK, don't mind me. I'm just trying to get it together. I'm scared of the knowledge of charting, I think that's another thing that stops me. I'm scared I will discover something bad about my cycles. It's almost like I don't want to know. Gosh, ignorance was BLISS the first time. I knew very little about my body or pregnancy or fetuses or infants. The more I find out, the more scared I tend to get. I hope I can handle the info that I get from my charts.

I'm going to the gyno on the 20th for my ovarian pain. I'm scared he'll say---forget it lady, you'll never get pregnant. You're too old.

I apologize for revealing my incredible lameness!

[kiki61872]

sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i'm only 5DPO and i want to test sooooo bad.

why i have no idea - i dont have a good feeling about this month. i'm hoping i'll be pleasantly suprised.

at least this cycle is a little better than the last one. i O on cd 22 where as last month it was i think cd 53 - eek - and then i got AF 5days after.

keeping my fingers crossed..............

[miel]

Good luck Kiki!

[prudies]

Hi Ladies! I have a lot of thoughts in my head and questions about our (very) future plans to TTC for #2, so I thought I'd join.

Name: Prudies
Married: 1/18/03
DS: Colin 5/21/04
TTC: Over a year from now.

Here are some of my questions/thoughts.

Career and Baby #2 I just went back to work in March, after a quite long hiatus. I'm working part-time as a lawyer, and could easily go to full-time here. It's a small firm, and they're very flexible. Great situation for me, but I keep thinking...what will happen with #2?

I'd love to take off a year again, but I don't see that happening. Even 6 months will be tough. There are no other female associates here, and there's no HR person. It's a very small practice. So. I don't even know where I would begin with figuring out a maternity leave. I know I don't have to find the answer for them, but it will make life a lot easier if I have an idea for a plan. I was thinking maybe finding a temp attorney to fill in for me? If I could find another part-time mommy lawyer who could share with me...that would be cool!

Anyone else have difficult pregnancy/birth with #1? This is my other big problem. I had pre-eclampsia with Elliott, and both me and DH are pretty freaked out by the prospect of a risky and difficult pregnancy and birth. I've been researching up a storm (brewer's diet, check), but doctors don't really know what causes pre-eclampsia, so the research can be frustrating.

Anyway, thanks for listening (reading)!

[miel]

Hey Prudies! I don't know much about pre-eclampsia but I do know our friend had it with her first and not with her second. I don't think she was even worried with her second. Obviously, this is not medical info! Good luck with your research and good luck with TTC #2!!!!

[prudies]

Hi miel! Hey quick question for you - what are your plans for daycare with #2? How long will you take off, do you think? Forgive the nosiness. :o

[SiValleySteph]

Hey Prudies,

We're not planning to TTC #2 for at least a year, but I have been thinking about it.

For work, I plan to do much the same as with DS. I will take 18 weeks off and then have my mom come and stay with us and watch #2 for another 3 months before he/she starts daycare at 7 months. We have to make sure to time it with my sisters so the Granny-Nanny (as we like to call her) is not in too high demand.

As for childcare, it will depend on what DS is doing. I would like them to be close together so pickup/drop off is easy.

[kiki61872]

i'm VERY nervous about being #2 - with DD i had incompetent cervix and ended up on bedrest for about a month and half before i had her.
i'm nervous that will happen again and how to cope with a toddler to care for.

day care - right now my mom watches DD for us. THANKGOD! but i cant have her watch 2 of mine. i'm hoping i could go part time at that point. if not, we may look into day care for DD and my mom could take the infant.

first thing first - i gotta get preggers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

right now i'm 7DPO
of course i woke up with a HUGE zit on my chin - i'm htinking AF may be on her way :mad:

[kiki61872]

where is everyone????????????/


can i tell you i'm getting all wrapped up. if i get AF this cycle i'm really going to be sad.................
i'm dying to POAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[miel]

How long will you take off, do you think?

I'm not sure I CAN take any time off. If I can't, then baby's papa will have to take some time off. He'll have to work 20 hours a week maybe and I'll have to try to arrange my schedule to pick up the other 20 in some way while still working 40+ hours a week. Basically, I'm pressed for time with fertility. I'd prefer to wait until my first one is almost in kindergarten to have another one--but I am so unsure that I can wait and am afraid of the consequences if I do wait. So I'm not going to wait that long.

The whole thing is super complicated. Since I'm at higher risk for miscarriage and also at higher risk for age-related infertility the longer I wait, the more bad stuff can happen. I believe I have to start really soon. It might be really hard, it might be easier--I wish you could know this stuff ahead of time, but you can't. The career and money issues are a big problem.

As far as daycare, we can't afford two kids in daycare. My hope is that we will get close to kindergarten with kid #1 so that we only have to pay tons of money for kid #2...They will overlap in daycare for less than a year, I *think.*

The next few years--possibly the next 5 or so years of my life--might be kind of hellish. Or they might be pretty good. I've decided to try for another soon and cross my fingers. I just hope the kids turn out OK even if we are poor, stressed out and working. I think they will. We don't have a lot of options--even if I didn't care about being 'successful' I'd have to work just to put food on the table. Except I do care about being successful.

By the way, there's an article on pre-eclampsia in the New Yorker this week. Guess what? Smoking during pregnancy REDUCES your chances of it. A lot! Isn't that absurd? But another thing that reduces your chances is to space your pregnancies close together. So it's good you are thinking of starting fairly soon.

[prudies]

Thank you for all of your perspectives, ladies. It really, really helps to hear.

I just have to say -
By the way, there's an article on pre-eclampsia in the New Yorker this week. Guess what? Smoking during pregnancy REDUCES your chances of it. A lot! Isn't that absurd? But another thing that reduces your chances is to space your pregnancies close together. So it's good you are thinking of starting fairly soon. What? The New Yorker has an article on preeclampsia? We just got that issue. Wahoo!

kiki - Good Luck!!!

[kiki61872]

SHOOT

i'm out!

AF showed up over the weekend. I'm totally bummed.

the good news is that my LP increased by 3 days (going from 5 to 8!)

of course i'm due for my annual exam this wednesday - and AF is here.
i'm still going to keep the appt - i want to talk to her about my short LP's and see what can be done.

what is the course of action for that? clomid?

(i O on my own - its just later than the 'norm' and then i have the short LP)

[Bucktown]

kiki d@mn! sorry to hear about AF. I've had just about enough of her.

Thought I'd give an update on myself:

Last Monday I had an appointment with an RE. He took one look at DS (I had to bring him w/, the sitter stiffed me :mad: ) and said that if he had to bet, I'll be pg soon. :confused: I repeated myself, the tauma my body went thru after DS delivery, no thyroid.... He said none of those things matter. :eek: I left the office stunned and feeling like a 2 ton weight had dropped back on my shoulders.

That Wed, (by the grace of God himself) I started spotting. I was only 10dpo and that's never happened to me. Ever. So I called that same RE & left a message. Friday came & I still received no return call so at 8:15pm I was sobbing to DH because of the spotting and that we were getting no help. At 8:34pm the phone rang. It was the hospital. My original RE was on vacation and I spoke with a new RE. He is the man that DH & I have been praying for. He completely disagreed w/ original doc and said that he wanted to do aggressive testing since my age is not working for us. Gave me a list of tests he wanted done & said to call the office on cd1 to schedule them.

cd1 happened on Saturday. I called the office this morning (cd3) and got my lab papers for an FSH, LH & E2. Bloodwork has been completed. This afternoon I scheduled my HSG for this Thursday. I am very excited to get this done despite hearing some horrible stories. But, I've heard that many women get pg soon after it.

DH still needs to schedule his SA. It WILL be this week. :D . I want anwers d@mn it. Even if they say there is no physical problem. I want to hear that too. It will help me relax.

The RE wanted to give clomid a shot but I want to make sure my tubes are ok since I'd be at a slightly higher risk for clotting. No sense in trying to squeeze an egg or 2 thru clogged tubes.

So, that's my update. Not sure I'll be posting too much more in this thread. I think I'll head over to the SAI or 35+ groups.

Good luck ladies!

[kiki61872]

bucktown -
sounds like you will be getting some answers soon! keep your chin up! (i know easier said than done!)

[kiki61872]

this thread is dying down - waaah i like it here.

i had my annual this week and i dicussed some of my concerns. oddly enough it was day 3 in my cycle and they took blood to check my thyroid and my hormones. the nurse cld and said everything is normal.
i'm going back on cd22 (cd21 for me is on a sunday and they were ok with the monday appt).
i told her that i usually O around 22-23 - they said to still come in. they will draw blood a 3rd time if need be. once i get a + OPK i can come in 7days after that.

i also made an appt for early September as a follow up. so we shall see.

[Bucktown]

I'm sorry kiki, I'll try to visit more often. :) Glad your tests came back normal. Hopefully the next ones will too!

I got my cd3 bloodwork results yesterday. FSH & LH are normal. My E2 came back slightly elevated at 65 when it should be <50. RE said I am in early stimulation in recruiting eggs. I guess it could mean that I have a dominant follicle that refuses to let the other eggs mature so quantity is low, I could have a low reserve of eggs left, or I could have a cyst which will bring up that number. I'll be going in on cd12 for a transvaginal u/s to see what my follicles look like. The past 2 cycles I O'd on cd13 so hopefully we'll get a good view of what's happening. I also had my HSG this afternoon. WOOOOOWEEEEEEEE did that sucker hurt. Luckily it only lasted 4 or so minutes then it was done. Tubes & uterus are clear & open.

Doc & I discussed clomid again but since I've had those d@mn PE's they are leary of letting me take it. Our other option is to go with 'natural monitoring'. They will check out my eggs each cycle & do an insem at the 'best' time. Not sure what to think of an IUI. It goes against our church and right now neither DH or I feel comfortable doing it. But I suppose that if we had to TTC for another year we'd probably have a different feeling about it. Our current plan is, we're going to keep trying on our own this month and if not this month we have ONE shot next month since DH will be touring w/ his band (we'll be in the same city for 1 night a day before O). If it doesn't happen either of those months we'll make the app't to further discuss our options.

What a bummer this has become. :(

[kiki61872]

sorry you are going thru all this bucktown.
sounds like you and DH have alot to think about!
i hope you make the right decision for you!

[docoNY]

is this thread still taking newbies?? I had posted a while back and we are now officially trying for #2 so thought I would start posting for real

its my first cycle off the pill and we winged it this month and didn't work - got AF today - I am ok with that since it means the body is working and I am back to where I used to be.. 31/32 day cycles

here are my stats again
name: docoNY (Deirdre)
married: 6/6/03
DD: July 9th, 2005

I am going to use opk's this time around

gotta run - my daughter is in the magazine rack :D

[HGMorgann]

Welcome Deirdre! :-)

We are still here. Still doing the Vitex thing, but think we will probally have to move on to Clomid soon. I just gotta get over my fear of doctors and make an appt. We moved a year ago, so I havent had to see a doctor for myself. I know I'm bein irrational though...

[kiki61872]

HGMorgann - i hear ya.
i have an appt for September and i'm nervous. I would much rather conceive naturally than go the clomid route - but how much longer can i take with ??


i'm on CD11 right now. Just hanging out. Last cycle i O around CD21/22.
for some weird reason i have it in my head it will be on cd17 this cycle. i wonder if i'll be right????? hmmmmmmm

in any event - i'm determined NOT to miss that darn egg. I told DH last nite that we are going to BD every day from now til i O!!

[HGMorgann]

Kiki - I'm CD13 today. Looks like we are close together this mo:-)

[Bucktown]

Hello girls!

I'm cd12 today and this morning I had the vaginal u/s to check my follies. I've got a 22 mm 'quivering on the edge of releasing' says my RE :D . If it doesn't happen this month we go straight to clomid. Next month we'll be taking a break due to DH's band touring, but then that appointment will be first thing done when we return. I'm cautiously optimistic since I had the HSG last Thurs and doc says there's usually an increase in fertility for the next few cycles.

kiki My RE told us it would be best to BD everyother day to maximize pg chances and DH has no known issues with his boys. Take that with a grain of salt though. ;)

HGMorgann GL to you, too. It would be great if we can all move to the PG boards together!

Doc Hi! May your stay be short & sweet!

[Bucktown]

How is everyone?

So, I think I O'd yesterday but have no way to confirm that since I had an allergy attack last night from 3AM to 5:20AM and figured that there would be no accurate temp reading with all that going on so why bother. Oh well. Between the +OPK on cd12 & my vag u/s that day as well, I'm pretty confident it happened yesterday. Guess we're in the 2WW now. This is the worst part. I'll try to get 2 more days of temping in but then I'm stopping. I really feel that temping after O gets confirmed can let you down and lead you on both at the same time. For me, I believe it makes the 2WW more stressful.

[docoNY]

cd6 here - boring!

last time I used OPK's and then would take my temp around AF time.. since taking my temp is just too hard - I wake up during the night, etc..

our first round at TTC back in 04 was a drama since I travelled and my husband travelled so hoping this time might be more normal.. nothing like missing a whole month cause your DH isn't home :)

TGIF

[Bucktown]

No O for me yet. Oh well. Guess I'm delaying it by stressing. Forget what my RE says, I just can't let BD-ing happen everyother day. :p

[kiki61872]

cd16 for me and no O yet. last cycle i think it was about cd21 or cd22 that i did O.

i got my GF juice last nite. i had a cup this morning and i have my GF half with me for a snack later on this morning.
i am really getting sick of GF!!!!

[kiki61872]

just checkin in
wacky temps lately - but i've not been sleeping well at all. i feel like my chart is all over the place.

[lil_nance]

Hi, Sorry I don't check in here very often. DS turned 1 on 7/15 and we started officially TTC shortly after. Looks, like it worked. I got a BFP this morning. Our first try!! :eek: I really didn't think it would be THAT easy. Hope everyone else has a short stay too.

[docoNY]

congrats Nancy!

cd14 here.. my cycles are usually 31/32 days so took my first OPK today and its negative so still hanging out here!

[LILRTL]

Hey, girls! We just started TTC #2. Well, we are on CD 3 of our first cycle anyway! :) Going back to read now!

[docoNY]

cd 17 and OPK's still negative - going to start anyway - thinking maybe I am messing up the tests

:)

welcome LILRTL

[kiki61872]

hi girls
i havent been here in a few days. i think i need to lay low for awhile. i am SO happy for those that get that BFP right away - but the jerky side me gets upset and jealous and yells where's mine!

i've been spotting for the past few days - but no AF yet. my temp went way down this morning so i'm sure either later on today or tomorrow.

at my yearly last month i talked to my NP about ttc and we did do blood work on cd3 and cd22 (cd21 fell on a sunday) and they can confirm i O'd.
yeah i already know that - i need to know why i get my AF 5-8 days after an O dummy!!!

i have an appt with the OB/GYN in early September for my 'fertility consultation".
not sure what to expect......

[Bucktown]

I'm sorry kiki. I know EXACTLY how you feel. I think I'm done here too. It's just not providing me with the support I need so why continue? I hope that you get some answers quickly as well as that BFP sooner than later. For me, I'm sure AF is on her way. I am SUPER *itchy. Next cycle off, then on to clomid! Good Luck, hun!

[HGMorgann]

kiki and bucktown, count me in on that too. AF arrived today. Its been over a year now for us. its just frustrating. it took 1.5 years to get pg. with DD. I just didnt want to go down that road again, but we are. I dont feel "in" with SAI girls (who are great!) because we do have a beautiful daughter and because we aren't really seriously intervening medically yet. I'm just frustrated. BUT, the Vitex I used this cycle extended my LP to about 11-12 days, so that is something...

[Bucktown]

I'm sorry to hear that HGM I've been reading along with SAI girls too & felt it wasn't quite appropriate for me to join there due to DS. Maybe we need a Tough Second thread. Anyone interested???

As for me, my head is about to pop off (PMS). I wish she'd get here just for the release from hormone hell.

[kiki61872]

I'm sorry to hear that HGM I've been reading along with SAI girls too & felt it wasn't quite appropriate for me to join there due to DS. Maybe we need a Tough Second thread. Anyone interested???

As for me, my head is about to pop off (PMS). I wish she'd get here just for the release from hormone hell.


i might be interested!

[Bucktown]

Anyone interested in a new thread RE: TOUGH SECOND (OR MORE)?


kiki I was just coming back to make my suggestion a little more noticeable so it didn't get lost in the shuffle. I'm sure if I go back far enough I can find out when you started TTC again but since I have NO patiences today I'm just going to ask. How long for you? I only ask because if I make a little statement in a new thread (ie. ....trying over 6 months for #2 or more) I want to be sure you are in the catch of that phrase.

ETA: kiki~ Looks like you got a little temp rise today! Anymore spotting??? Maybe you won't need the new thread afterall!

[kiki61872]

you're correct - no spotting today adn a little temp rise. i'm going to wait and see what the next couple of days brings.
my LP's are usually really short and AF is usually super light - so that really could have just been AF.
this happened one other time and i got all excited for nothing - so i'm trying to just tell myself it is AF.

as for trying - we started TTC in the fall (november 05). it started as oh lets wait and see, then in april when nothing was happening i started charting.
so here we are in august - thought for sure i'd be preggers by now. :rolleyes:

[HGMorgann]

Tough Second sounds good;-) Well its not fun and not good...but you know...

[kiki61872]

Tough Second sounds good;-) Well its not fun and not good...but you know...


sounds like a good title to me too.

[Bucktown]

OMG KIKI Just stalked your chart! Congratulations to you!

[Bucktown]

It's official. I'm out. BFN at 14DPO. Waiting for AF. On to month 8, cycle 9. Totally sucks.

[HGMorgann]

Congrats KIKI!!

[docoNY]

yeah KIKI! :)

[kiki61872]

thanks girls!
it was a big suprise! yah know you get used to the BFN each time this kind of suprised us.
yeah me!

[newmommy]

I'd like to join : )

DH and I have decided that we will TTC in May 07' :D

Name: Newmommy (28)
Married: 9/14/02
DS #1: V. 1/7/06
TTC#2: May07'

[Mrs.Chappy]

I'm lurking..big time
Mrs.Chappy (30)
Married: 8-3-02
DS: 6-8-05
TTC #2??? not ready..but its creaping into my mind.

DH and i have not really set a time frame but we want our kids to be no more than 3 yrs apart..so..you do the math.

I have so many thoughts and feelings bout this. I am not even sure i want to chart and 'plan' this time 'round..though i am a HUGE planner...Baby #1 came so easy for us just tried one month and bam! I can't take that for granted but i don't want to assume anything. Anyway..more later.

[Ferris]

I'd like to join too!

Like newmommy my DH have decided that we will TTC #2 in May '07. When we talk about '07 I thought I had awhile until I counted the months and it's only 8! Yikes that scares the crap out of me!

Name: Ferris (29)
Married: 7/13/02
DS #1: 5/21/05
TTC#2: May '07